And that's the problem. The pay table says E190/195 and you have established a rate for an airplane that could replace 88s, 319s, 737s and it pays less than all.

I agree, I don't think the company wants the rates that low at mainline.

I would estimate there are tens of thousands of pilots willing to fly the 190 for the pay rates that Delta offered. They are called new hires.

Not to bw obtuse, but why not?

Because delta doesn't want relative new hires in the left seat flying with new hires in the right seat. Even though they did it with delta express, it required, quite likely, the most stringent standardization program Delta has ever had. So, to be blunt, delta would like their captains to have more time on property...even though some of the new hires have a bunch of capt time in the e-jet.

Jmo.

Watch out. I got some serious incoming for suggesting that a few months ago. I think I tied it to insurance.


Get ready to duck! :D

You are right they were just flying the same airplane with a few less rows of seats behind them. They are totally incapable of flying Delta passengers safely. :eek:

Um... never mind. :rolleyes:

If they bring their old airplanes with them it would be one big fleet back under the mainline banner. Take back scope, rates would be secondary for everyone on property right now. :cool:

Exactly. I had a long talk with the ATL Intl CP about sick leave. He said the company wants to match the rest of the industry, but HE SAID the rest of the industry "Incentivizes sick leave", as in, they bank it and/or pay out unused sick leave at the end of the year.

So any 'industry average' comparison to our 'use it or lose it' is apples to oranges. His words, not mine. I just agreed with him. He was frustrated because he's supposed to be the Sick Leave Police, when in fact, nobody was 'abusing' it, they were just using it.

It's a benefit in our contract, just like vacation.

Do you use all your vacation? Are you a Vacation Abuser?

Whatever.

It has nothing to do with previous experience or anything lacking. Not all new hires are created equally. Plus it's not my decision anyway.

I have always, always been a scope recapture guy. I want delta pilots to fly everything under the delta brand.

If some weasel wants to make it some mil vs civ thing or north vs south or green vs blue, that's on him.

For those of you who were not here when Delta started "Express" in 1996, we had guys on furlough from 1993, who were recalled to CAPTAIN on the 737 Express in 1996.

It was only the bottom 3 Captains on Express, but still, you had 3 guys who had NEVER flown as a Delta copilot, (they were 727/L10-11 engineers when furloughed) who were recalled to Express 737 Captain in MCO.

Pair that up with a new hire, things can get pretty funny, pretty fast!:D