I want to see the company make a case to the NMB that they need more concessions, pilot funded pay raises, and reduced profit sharing, when they are making record profits every quarter and buying back billions in stock.

I don't give a schidt what the NMB thinks is reasonable, I want to go straight to Wall Street and the public, show them how much money our Management is still taking from us and giving to themselves with stock buybacks, while we are still being paid 18% BELOW 2004 rates, and oh yeah, no retirement plan!

 

You also had a pension with C2K. Don't feel so bad about sharing in the companies profits. When we aren't profitable you wont share this burden. So again, the goal is restoration. Everyone else is restored. Management more so than others. The industry doesn't need concessions to be profitable. Go get yourself an orange lanyard my friend.

 

Get all of what?

Mediation just removes the concessions.

 

Question: If we change our bargaining agent, would not the new agent be starting with a clean slate? Would like to get away from the warmed over turd strategy....dumping a few cupcake sprinkles on it and calling it good.

 

Just so everyone is on the same page here - we are talking about mediation, not arbitration. I think some people are confusing the two.

We were in mediation in C2000 if I remember correctly - and unless I am mistaken all it really does is slow things down.

Does this sound about right?

Scoop

 

Scoop-
You are correct.
NMB 'mediation" is nothing but another way to stall for time.
Its absolutely meaningless.

 

Wall Street and the public does not give a schidt, they only care about return and the public its about the price of a ticket. The only thing that gets both their attention is the dropping of backpacks.

 

That is exactly my point. We tell the Wall Street clowns the money train is about to go off the rails, and we tell our customers they may want to make other travel plans next Christmas. You will all be getting a pretty bid Profit Sharing check come next Feb 14, I suggest you save it for your strike fund.

 

Well, if you're going to count things that didn't exist as a loss, that's fair. We'll call it lost opportunity cost.

But you'll then need to count what you didn't give up as a gain.

- You gained health privacy safeguards. I'm not sure how to put a dollar amount on that, but if you were to pay a private company to recover those safeguards, you'd be broke.
-- With that, you gained career security. Again, hard to put a number on that, unless you're the one med-down for 3 years or the rest of your career trying to get reinstated because of something your non-AME PCM mistakenly wrote on your records that the company AME found and reported to the FAA. Couldn't happen? I'd say that if it happens to even one pilot over the life of this contract and all the rest of the contracts the provisions would remain in place (indefinitely), it's not worth the cost.
-- With that, you also gained freedom from intimidation and second-guessing as to whether you should call in sick (or whether your pairing mate should call in sick instead of making you call in sick for the next rotation).
-- With that, you also gained the benefits of DAL, instead of pressuring pilots to work more, staffing correctly, or to pay you and your fellow pilots a "failure to staff correctly" bonus (green slips).

- You gained 12 hours a year more at home. Say it with me... "Hol.." "Holi.." "Holiday." No, not "Hollandaise."
-- With that, you gained about 130 more pilots on property, or the consequences of not hiring those pilots (again, green slips).

- You gained better schedules and literally millions of dollars in green slips for FOs of all seniorities instead of allowing DAL to make up for hiring insufficiencies by slick scheduling slights of hand which violate seniority and harm all FOs.
-- With that, you gained more Capt slots for those who would rather be a Capt than push up to the green slip trough like some of their more senior compatriots, and better category seniority for those already there.

I could continue and will at a later date.

 

Awesome... then logic would dictate that we dismantle the union, stop paying dues, line up on our knees, hold out our bowls and say:

"please sir, may I have some more"...

Or.... we get rid of the old guard union types, (know any of those?) and actually have a union again...

You know, since we are making more PROFITS than during the entire history of manned flight!

There can be only one choice for RESTORATION:

Sam DeRosa
0961094 (Scott Martin write-in)
Jimmy Johnson
Chris Kern

VOTE NOW!

THEN tell three friends to vote the above ticket!