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12-06-2015, 09:09 AM
#71
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Remember during C12K negotiations, SD told us they would start hiring right away if we voted yes?
Remember what happened next?
They waited a YEAR to start hiring! They said it was because they wanted the fourth quarter earnings numbers to be huge, so they could get listed on the S+P 500.
That was THEIR CHOICE, it was a Business Decision, THEY made, KNOWING they would be SHORT of pilots going forward.
THEY DID IT ANYWAY.
Any pilot shortage today is a result of their business decision. They were focused on running the stock price up, because they get paid in stock. They made Millions on that decision.
Well, it's payback time.
Remember what happened next?
They waited a YEAR to start hiring! They said it was because they wanted the fourth quarter earnings numbers to be huge, so they could get listed on the S+P 500.
That was THEIR CHOICE, it was a Business Decision, THEY made, KNOWING they would be SHORT of pilots going forward.
THEY DID IT ANYWAY.
Any pilot shortage today is a result of their business decision. They were focused on running the stock price up, because they get paid in stock. They made Millions on that decision.
Well, it's payback time.
12-06-2015, 12:58 PM
#72
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Originally Posted by Flamer
Let's take care of the people here first. Then worry about the people that want to be here later. And for F's sake, let's quit trying to solve company created problems.
TA2015 solved all of the company's problems, in the manner in which they wanted them to be solved. What made it even worse it we got almost nothing in return.
The script has to be flipped the next time.
12-06-2015, 01:18 PM
#73
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Remember during C12K negotiations, SD told us they would start hiring right away if we voted yes?
Remember what happened next?
They waited a YEAR to start hiring! They said it was because they wanted the fourth quarter earnings numbers to be huge, so they could get listed on the S+P 500.
That was THEIR CHOICE, it was a Business Decision, THEY made, KNOWING they would be SHORT of pilots going forward.
THEY DID IT ANYWAY.
Any pilot shortage today is a result of their business decision. They were focused on running the stock price up, because they get paid in stock. They made Millions on that decision.
Well, it's payback time.
Remember what happened next?
They waited a YEAR to start hiring! They said it was because they wanted the fourth quarter earnings numbers to be huge, so they could get listed on the S+P 500.
That was THEIR CHOICE, it was a Business Decision, THEY made, KNOWING they would be SHORT of pilots going forward.
THEY DID IT ANYWAY.
Any pilot shortage today is a result of their business decision. They were focused on running the stock price up, because they get paid in stock. They made Millions on that decision.
Well, it's payback time.
Until it's a done deal, it ain't a done deaL....
12-06-2015, 03:47 PM
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Yup, but my point is, the company made a decision to -not- hire for a year, to bump up the stock price, so they could sell their shares and make millions.
Now they have a pilot shortage?
Not our problem, it's their problem.
Now they have a pilot shortage?
Not our problem, it's their problem.
12-06-2015, 04:52 PM
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It wasn't company negligence, it was corporate greed.
They were so sure we would agree to give up the LCA trip drops, they made the decision to NOT hire.
Now I hope they have to pay out about a zillion greenslips to cover the flying they decided not to hire for.
They were so sure we would agree to give up the LCA trip drops, they made the decision to NOT hire.
Now I hope they have to pay out about a zillion greenslips to cover the flying they decided not to hire for.
12-06-2015, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
It wasn't company negligence, it was corporate greed.
12-06-2015, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Minor point but corporate greed was the motive, negligence was the result. Torts text books are littered with negligence litigation initiated because of corporate greed (i.e., cutting corners with adverse results). But for the company wanting to save money by cutting corners, [x] would not have occured.
12-07-2015, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FL370esq
Minor point but corporate greed was the motive, negligence was the result. Torts text books are littered with negligence litigation initiated because of corporate greed (i.e., cutting corners with adverse results). But for the company wanting to save money by cutting corners, [x] would not have occured.
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