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Old 03-08-2014, 05:05 AM
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Fellow Pilot,

During the past several months, ALPA’s Fee-for-Departure (FFD) Committee, which is composed of the MEC chairmen from ALPA fee-for-departure carriers, has been meeting to discuss the various challenges that our sector is experiencing and identify how we can overcome these challenges. Capacity reductions, bankruptcies, increased competition for new flying, changes in fleet composition to more fuel-efficient aircraft, cost, and contract discrepancies have all led to difficult negotiations for our members. To identify how best to deal with these challenges, particularly across the negotiating table, the FFD Committee requested the assistance and advice of ALPA’s Collective Bargaining Committee (CBC).

For those who don’t know, the CBC is a national ALPA committee composed of eight pilots from a broad range of ALPA carriers, including four pilot volunteers from ALPA fee-for-departure carriers. Our purpose is to support ALPA’s collective bargaining efforts, and our main function is to review and make recommendations to help establish favorable contract patterns across pilot groups.

In order to better understand the issues that are most important to you, we need to hear directly from you. Therefore, with the support of the FFD Committee, the CBC is conducting a survey of all ALPA pilots at fee-for-departure carriers. Our purpose is to identify and prioritize the issues that are most important to you. Once we have a better understanding of what those priorities are, we can work with the FFD committee to establish clearly defined goals that will lead to improvements in your pay, benefits, job security, and career progression. Together we can develop plans to achieve those goals.

Your participation in this effort is critical in developing a plan that will support bargaining efforts across the board. ALPA pilots are most effective when we use one collective voice representing all pilots. Capt. Moak is committed to working with the mainline brand carriers, the National Mediation Board, and other industry stakeholders to further the goals developed as a result of this process.

The general survey includes 35 questions plus an opportunity to provide comments. The survey is now open and will run through the end of March.

You can take the survey online by clicking: FFD_Survey
Please login with your ALPA number (please include leading zeroes)

· If you have trouble accessing the survey or have questions regarding the login process, please email [email protected]
· You may only take the survey once. If you need to save your work, please click the “Save” button. When you resume it will pick up where you left off.
· ALPA will receive a summary of how many people have taken the poll, as well as a summary of their collective answers. We will not know your individual responses.

It is vitally important that you participate in this process. Only through broad-based participation can we develop goals and objectives that reflect your collective interests. Individual survey responses are completely confidential, and the compiled results will only be utilized by the CBC, FFD Task Force, and ALPA staff.

Thanks in advance for your participation,
Got this email, took the survey. My answers were all about the money.
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Old 03-08-2014, 05:55 AM
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I thought it was a survey of the fecal fart discriminator... You do not want that to fail.
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Old 03-08-2014, 06:41 AM
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This looks like a freshman stat 101 student did that hung over after a bender with his frat bros. This has to be one of the worst designed surveys I have ever seen. I am afraid I may have even screwed up my intention by how bad it was.

I did indicate that flow through/preferential hiring is one of the least cared about items
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I put quality of life, but yeah the survey was pretty awful.
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:12 AM
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It seemed to me that the survey was highly skewed to try to get a result of "yeah, the pilots said preferential hiring agreements are great!"
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Old 03-08-2014, 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SebastianDesoto View Post
Got this email, took the survey. My answers were all about the money.
Same here.
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Old 03-08-2014, 10:29 AM
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It seemed to me that the survey was highly skewed to try to get a result of "yeah, the pilots said preferential hiring agreements are great!"
the vibe I got was how much we are willing to give up to get newhire FO's to apply.
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:18 PM
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the vibe I got was how much we are willing to give up to get newhire FO's to apply.
Which is basically the problem with ALPA at the regionals in a nut shell. It's not about raising FO rates but getting others to take a cut so we can raise FO rates. They should be negotiating raises across the board with these FFD carriers but they're stuck in a concessionary mindset.
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Which is basically the problem with ALPA at the regionals in a nut shell. It's not about raising FO rates but getting others to take a cut so we can raise FO rates. They should be negotiating raises across the board with these FFD carriers but they're stuck in a concessionary mindset.
While I agree we shouldn't take concessions to raise FO wages, its a lie to say that FO's haven't gotten the short end of the stick for years under the guise of "it'll you'll only be there for a short time anyway".
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Old 03-08-2014, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by WIPilot View Post
the vibe I got was how much we are willing to give up to get newhire FO's to apply.
Yeah, I got the same impression. I agree with what Bzzt says, too.

My question remains; why *must* RJ pilots make one third or one fourth that of their mainline partners? Using min guarantee and round numbers, a 76 seat RJ FO makes about 40k a year, but a 717 FO makes about 110k a year (and we all know who has better benefits.). I realize that pay won't be exactly the same given aircraft size, but that pay gap is enormous.

How is it that the RJ pilots are the ones breaking the bank of their mainline partners? That is to say, why are even small pay raises so unthinkable? Especially since poor pay rates are killing off future generations of pilots, and even the media is saying, "Hey, its about the money, ya rocket scientists!"
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