Delta's 2016 Earings
12-21-2015, 05:59 AM
#11
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Everything about the last TA points to well crafted joint effort between Dalpa and the company to get at least 51% of us to vote yes.
The early TA, no pro con paper, sell job, MEC chairman blow up, shortened period to examine the document, 8% up front. You can go on and on.
If past experience is any indication, we should have an agreement in 8 weeks. Right? That's the way Dalpa and management negotiate. About the time the profit sharing checks arrive.
This time, show us the money.
The early TA, no pro con paper, sell job, MEC chairman blow up, shortened period to examine the document, 8% up front. You can go on and on.
If past experience is any indication, we should have an agreement in 8 weeks. Right? That's the way Dalpa and management negotiate. About the time the profit sharing checks arrive.
This time, show us the money.
12-21-2015, 01:48 PM
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Not....It is the pathetic irony of alpa incompetence that the single component of our pwa that had any chance of making it the 'richest in history'...... is precisely the feature they couldn't wait to get rid of.....
Capt'n......beautiful assessment of our current state of 'productivity'...... and the expectation and consequence of continually running a powerplant at 100%+
Capt'n......beautiful assessment of our current state of 'productivity'...... and the expectation and consequence of continually running a powerplant at 100%+
12-21-2015, 04:42 PM
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Originally Posted by capncrunch
I'm happy to vote no again. I'll live under this contract till they supply a better one. I'm not voting in something worse for a few schillings.
We as pilots are already at red line. The company wants more productivity but there is noting more to give. We already fly too much, guys are collapsing in the seat or a few years after retiring.
There is no more productivity to give yet they want more and then complain when we call in sick.
There is an event horizon where any more productivity becomes less productive. We have crossed that boundary.
It's January and I can't move my days around because of min reserve coverage yet they say my fleet is over staffed. Hmmmm
Something is rotten in Denmark.
We as pilots are already at red line. The company wants more productivity but there is noting more to give. We already fly too much, guys are collapsing in the seat or a few years after retiring.
There is no more productivity to give yet they want more and then complain when we call in sick.
There is an event horizon where any more productivity becomes less productive. We have crossed that boundary.
It's January and I can't move my days around because of min reserve coverage yet they say my fleet is over staffed. Hmmmm
Something is rotten in Denmark.
How about some credit for the good things DALPA has secured, in addition to criticizing the bad things?
How
12-21-2015, 05:04 PM
#16
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
Guys are collapsing in the seat? Puhleeze. I am enjoying flying trips that always pay at least 5.15 a day with the ADG, and that also applies to reserves as well as regular line holders. We didn't have that even three years ago. So this year's reserve that 'flew 90 hours" (oh the humanity! and all that) may have only gotten 75 or so...or far less... a few years ago, for the exact same flying.
How about some credit for the good things DALPA has secured, in addition to criticizing the bad things?
How
How about some credit for the good things DALPA has secured, in addition to criticizing the bad things?
How
First the good:
C2012 was acceptable. The fact that many are willing to fly under it for years if need be lends credence to this. Not great, some will say good, some will say terrible, I say acceptable.
SOT - Has done some very good things.
TOT - Has also done some very good things.
Now the bad:
TA-15 was a huge failure.
Finally the ugly:
The "No holds barred" sales job was indeed very ugly. The MEC Chairman losing his cool and blowing his top. Numerous statements saying "There is nothing more on the table." And lets not forget how we were repeatedly told we would lose the additional 737s and 190s with a no vote.
Some now appear to be trying to re-write history and deny the sales job - not gonna happen. Waaay too much of a video and posting trail.
Now with that said, our team, like em or hate em is in place. Now is the time to support DALPA and maximize our leverage which appears to be steadily growing.
Scoop
12-21-2015, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
Fair enough.
First the good:
C2012 was acceptable. The fact that many are willing to fly under it for years if need be lends credence to this. Not great, some will say good, some will say terrible, I say acceptable.
SOT - Has done some very good things.
TOT - Has also done some very good things.
Now the bad:
TA-15 was a huge failure.
Finally the ugly:
The "No holds barred" sales job was indeed very ugly. The MEC Chairman losing his cool and blowing his top. Numerous statements saying "There is nothing more on the table." And lets not forget how we were repeatedly told we would lose the additional 737s and 190s with a no vote.
Some now appear to be trying to re-write history and deny the sales job - not gonna happen. Waaay too much of a video and posting trail.
Now with that said, our team, like em or hate em is in place. Now is the time to support DALPA and maximize our leverage which appears to be steadily growing.
Scoop
First the good:
C2012 was acceptable. The fact that many are willing to fly under it for years if need be lends credence to this. Not great, some will say good, some will say terrible, I say acceptable.
SOT - Has done some very good things.
TOT - Has also done some very good things.
Now the bad:
TA-15 was a huge failure.
Finally the ugly:
The "No holds barred" sales job was indeed very ugly. The MEC Chairman losing his cool and blowing his top. Numerous statements saying "There is nothing more on the table." And lets not forget how we were repeatedly told we would lose the additional 737s and 190s with a no vote.
Some now appear to be trying to re-write history and deny the sales job - not gonna happen. Waaay too much of a video and posting trail.
Now with that said, our team, like em or hate em is in place. Now is the time to support DALPA and maximize our leverage which appears to be steadily growing.
Scoop
12-21-2015, 07:39 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I just don't know why all these posts have nothing to do with the title of this thread...which is about jewelry. I actually didn't know Delta had Earings, but what do I know.
Carl
Carl
Scoop
12-21-2015, 08:34 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler
I just don't know why all these posts have nothing to do with the title of this thread...which is about jewelry. I actually didn't know Delta had Earings, but what do I know.
Carl
Carl
I mean we just love them. Love love love them.
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