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TNDeltaFlyboy 01-08-2016 04:57 AM


Originally Posted by Maddogflier (Post 2042467)
As far as I can tell the company has not even scheduled a date for a second meeting after the 22 Dec opener and they have presented no counter formally or informally. I sure hope I am wrong.


Do they need to schedule a meeting? If they agree to entire contract, wouldn't a phone call to JM be enough?


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LivingTheDream 01-08-2016 05:18 AM

I also doubt this rumor is true...

The only way it MIGHT make sense, is if RA/EB would rather accept this CP than deal with an even larger CP brought by Team Restoration after 1 March...

Or if they have countered with significant reductions in our CP.

As I've said before... With the BILLIONS upon BILLIONS we are making, our current CP is my ABSOLUTE minimum... otherwise, it's a very easy NO.

cni187 01-08-2016 05:23 AM


Originally Posted by Maddogflier (Post 2042467)
As far as I can tell the company has not even scheduled a date for a second meeting after the 22 Dec opener and they have presented no counter formally or informally. I sure hope I am wrong.

Just flew with an LEC person. There has been nothing since the proposal was given. I think they scheduled a meeting to decide what type of table(round or rectangular) they would use at the meeting after that one. Expect no news until Mar 31st when the company has to go into mediation mandated by our current agreement. Then expect nothing else to come either.

bohicagain 01-08-2016 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2042517)
Just flew with an LEC person. There has been nothing since the proposal was given. I think they scheduled a meeting to decide what type of table(round or rectangular) they would use at the meeting after that one. Expect no news until Mar 31st when the company has to go into mediation mandated by our current agreement. Then expect nothing else to come either.

Yes because LEC guys never hide anything and are always transparent

Schwanker 01-08-2016 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by LivingTheDream (Post 2042514)
I also doubt this rumor is true...

The only way it MIGHT make sense, is if RA/EB would rather accept this CP than deal with an even larger CP brought by Team Restoration after 1 March...

Or if they have countered with significant reductions in our CP.

As I've said before... With the BILLIONS upon BILLIONS we are making, our current CP is my ABSOLUTE minimum... otherwise, it's a very easy NO.

Didn't management in the past threaten either take this deal or the next one will be worse?

Well, here's their chance, the next one will cost more.

Can't seem to find my backpack.... anywhere!

Hank Kingsley 01-08-2016 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 2042517)
Just flew with an LEC person. There has been nothing since the proposal was given. I think they scheduled a meeting to decide what type of table(round or rectangular) they would use at the meeting after that one. Expect no news until Mar 31st when the company has to go into mediation mandated by our current agreement. Then expect nothing else to come either.

Just had a beer at Spondivits with the 4th floor janitor, the company increased our opener. Holiday pay will be retroactive.

notEnuf 01-08-2016 06:03 AM

Heard that United ratification is a concern, waiting until the vote is concluded. From a reliable source of course.

buckleyboy 01-08-2016 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2042541)
Just had a beer at Spondivits with the 4th floor janitor, the company increased our opener. Holiday pay will be retroactive.

Bull squeeze! Nobody just has "a beer" at Spondivits. Even if it is before 10 am.

flyallnite 01-08-2016 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by Schwanker (Post 2042530)
Didn't management in the past threaten either take this deal or the next one will be worse?

Well, here's their chance, the next one will cost more.

Can't seem to find my backpack.... anywhere!

I'd be very surprised if the company sits on its hands until mediation. By doing so they lose control of the process. They have much to gain by inking a new agreement in a timely manner. They have problems that need solved and investors who need reassuring. Whatever the case though, we didn't sign a concession filled agreement for a small net pay increase. We retained higher paying 757's and still gained more 100 seat flying. Our profit sharing remains intact and projected profits are astronomical. One thing for them to remember; you can pay me now, or pay me later, the price will only increase over time. It's in their best interest to find a reasonable solution sooner than later.

Purple Drank 01-08-2016 06:14 AM

I'm not buying the rumors.
It's a classic "wearing the other guy down" tactic. Build up hope...and then tear it down.
This "rumor" has Mike Cambpell's fingerprints all over it. And the outgoing LEC guys have proven they are happy to enable management's games.


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