Spot on. Richie Rich and Sleepless Ed are not our buddies contrary to what some kool aid drinking lca's and Moakists will tell you. We are labor and a cost to be managed to them. They will happily smile at you and then take what they can from you if it meant putting one more penny in their bank account. The only way we will see restoration around here is when it starts costing our so called leaders some of their own hard earned cash. Money talks.

Yup, I get all that. Some regionals used to be "pay for training" or they didn't consider you employee until you completed OE, all on top of first year pay that qualified you for food stamps. But you won't find the guys who went through that advocating that their predecessors must go through the same trials in order to prove their metal. Every two bit regional provides hotels all through training, even Delta's wholly owned. They all provide lodging for FA's as well. Every other major provides hotels. It seems to me the union could make it clear they are not willing to spend negotiating capital on an issue that the company should be ashamed to have not addressed long ago. And seriously, how much could this really cost them? They bought an oil refinery. Why don't they buy the Crowne Plaza?


Regarding the ESPP, if they have one it must be top secret. Nobody I've talked to knows anything about it. Can anybody elaborate?

United guy here... Flew with an old school UAL captain a few days ago whose a yes voter (never voted yes before) on our TA and explained it like this (I'm paraphrasing a 2 hour conversation:

"Delta has never, allowed themselves to be paid less than us. Ever. By voting yes for this two year extension and jumping them in pay while keeping our PS, we give them a stool to stand on to raise the bar even further. If they pass us in pay again maybe the snap up plays, maybe it doesn't but we'll have gotten a raise and Delta will have raised the bar when we go back into Sec 6 in three years."

No one I know thinks this TA will fail, probably in the 68/32 range give or take a few points, we'll know on the 22nd... Then it's up to you guys.

Delta makes in profits what this lottery is worth every few months.



We need a bigger raise...

..........so we can buy more lottery tickets. :D

He is a smart man.

We asked, now we are being ignored. Awaiting next catalyst.

We will be ignored until Jan 22nd. If the United TA extension passes, I think they will accept our proposal.

If United passes the TA and Delta counters with something lower, there will be 12,000 backpacks hitting the floor in one loud THUD.

Excellent point, RA has paid himself 2-5 times more than other airline CEO's since he's been at Delta. What's good for the goose..

Richard already bought the winning ticket, but WE paid for it. :rolleyes:

Where did most of that $6 Billion in profit come from?

US!

I agree.

TEN