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Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 2045044)
If we end up in binding arbitration and don't like the final result we could always pull a page from USAirways playbook.
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Folks, we will never go to "binding arbitration"... that requires the agreement of BOTH parties.
The ONLY entity that can impose a contract is Congress... and in that VERY unlikely event, it would be time for National to call for an SOS... because if they didn't, it would be the end of Alpa. We will, in all likely hood, go to mediation... there is a HUGE difference... Mediation is not to be feared. |
Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob
(Post 2045302)
After all the crap guys here gave USAPA for pulling that stunt, it would be highly hypocritical of us. Which I guess means, game on!
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Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 2045044)
If we end up in binding arbitration and don't like the final result we could always pull a page from USAirways playbook.
Little help for the (somewhat) newbie, please? "USAirways playbook"? |
Originally Posted by Jughead135
(Post 2045362)
Just when I start to stop thinking of myself as a noob, someone brings up something from before my time that leaves me scratching my head....
Little help for the (somewhat) newbie, please? "USAirways playbook"? |
Originally Posted by capncrunch
(Post 2045301)
It's entertaining to hear from you throw away account guys. Brand new to APC with a clear agenda.
What I don't get is why you have it out to sandbag your fellow pilots. Somehow your ilk cannot compute concessions and profit sharing giveaways. I just flew with a guy who kept touting how much he's lost in wages from not accepting TA15. I asked him how much he calculated for the loss in PS and the other concessions and he had no answer. This is exactly why your in the 35 percentile, very bad at math. I think it's time for you to listen to the smart guys in the room instead of blowing your horn. If you can't do that, then just listen. You clearly don't get it. Man you lost me on your entire post! I voted no, I want a lot more. I point out the company is stalling and you say I am supporting them or something? Strange man, strange!!! |
Originally Posted by Maddogflier
(Post 2045405)
Man you lost me on your entire post! I voted no, I want a lot more. I point out the company is stalling and you say I am supporting them or something? Strange man, strange!!!
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Originally Posted by Maddogflier
(Post 2044964)
I would prefer the UAL TA does not pass. The entire mediation process is geared to driving the solution to industry average. Overall if you applied the United TA rates to our fleet the rates are lower then our rejected TA. We can talk all day about the 330 rate but if you look at the other rates it's not good!
UAL 767-254 Delta TA1 260 UAL 757-245 Delta TA1 260 UAL 737-235 Delta TA1 250 UAL A320-245 A319-235 Delta TA1 241 These should be sobering numbers. Delta management would jump at these payrates. I would prefer UAL to go back to the table! |
Originally Posted by LivingTheDream
(Post 2045326)
Folks, we will never go to "binding arbitration"... that requires the agreement of BOTH parties.
We will, in all likely hood, go to mediation... there is a HUGE difference... Mediation is not to be feared. |
An informative link for those new to the contract negotiation process, like myself. It's actually a SWA FA website, but it hits all the key points like NMB, PEB, Arbitration, etc. Check out the "Our Local's History" tab for an enlightening history of hot pants and unions.
https://twu556.org/nt/contract-negotiations-102/ |
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