Anything about pay and hotels for new hires while in training? DAL lags the industry in this regard and it seems it's gotten embarrassing.

Also any talk of an ESPP (employee stock purchase program)? Alaska has a great one.

We already have an ESPP at DAL....

After looking at the proposed UAL pay tables, with the profit sharing, vacation and DC left unchanged, this contract opener looks more like a best and final offer. I would consider voting YES for the opener, but even one reduction in any area of the proposal triggers a NO vote. They cut this one close to the bone in the current environment.

If RA is smart, he will counter with our opener, PLUS an accelerated implementation schedule on per diem, retirement and vacation pay just to be safe.

Are you even a Delta pilot?

Why, when we are trying (so far unsuccessfully) to negotiate industry leading pay scales, would any sane negotiator want to spend bargaining chips on hotel reimbursement for the first six weeks of a thirty year career. Get real.

Frankly, ALPA should spend zero negotiating capital in this one! If the company truly believes in what they write in the Flight Plan and other documents, they would treat the new employees equally!

Delta should be putting all of their new hires up.

Agreed. In order to be competitive Delta needs to handle new hire bennies as they see fit. NH hotels were in TA 2015. I naively hope it was something Delta offered up, not requested by ALPA. Zero negotiating capitol should be expended. 13,000 of us here and generations before had to tough it out as new hires, so sympathy won't abound. It would be nice if new hires had less financial worries, but let's focus on making the "meat" of our careers better.

Go to Alaska then!!!!! You are in the new hire mode for 8 weeks max,,,Pay rates may be close to forever!!!!So better yet stay at a regional and don't pollute our gene pool with your presence.

Lol. For what it is worth (not sure with new TA) but FDX didn't put new hires in a hotel for new hire training either. There are literally THOUSANDS of people who would give anything to go to DAL. New hire hotels are not something worth bargaining for. That is something that is up to the company to provide and/or modify.

At the end of my 30+ year career at DAL I am not gonna look back and say "would've been a great career if they would've paid for my hotel during the entire time I was in ATL for new hire sims....."

I hear Delta puts on a real nice dinner for new hires and guests. That's why I'm not at United. Trading my new hire hotel for dinner.

Can't wait to start.

DAL poolie

The reason we were told, (30 years ago) that Delta doesn't pay for hotels for new hires was, you don't actually work for Delta until you complete and pass your new hire training checkride. Granted, few flunked out, but there was one guy in my new hire class who went on a bender one Tuesday night, missed class on Weds and was let go.

There was one other guy in my class who after 12 months, flunked his end of probation checkride, but he was already on thin ice and had been warned to get a new attitude twice before, by the ATL CPO. He got into a battle of egos with his check engineer, and lost.

Which major airline has door pay?