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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 2034468)

To answer your question: "Yes," I would choose OC over the current occupant. The smarts and competence of neither man is in question. But if you like the idea of somebody who could see the pilots' perspective, a rotation of chairs might be in order. Not that it necessarily matters if your hands are tied from above. :D

While I would agree that no one on the fourth floor is very good at seeing things from a pilots perspective, I have to laugh at the idea of OC having more of a pilot perspective than SD or JG.

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 2034468)

As smart as he is, I think he needs to March a little bit more; ONE, to look professional in his uniform and TWO, to live a longer and healthier life. There is no excuse for him not to hire a Physical trainer to help him lean out. He makes a ton of money

I don't think he meant it seriously. We all have to have a laugh every once in a while. Even SD himself I'm sure has a good laugh about it. We all have to have a thick skin in this industry. Its all good clean fun.

As for being on the pilots side on most issues, I contend that he is not. I think he has limited ability to do anything of real value if he wants to protect his job.

Ghillis!! My brother, I was sort of serious! We preach professionalism and brotherhood at Delta. As a brother, I am concerned with his weight. He needs to lose weight or else his "health" future is bleak.

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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2034552)

While I would agree that no one on the fourth floor is very good at seeing things from a pilots perspective, I have to laugh at the idea of OC having more of a pilot perspective than SD or JG.

OC, SD; whom ever takes the title; the one thing you ought to know is that they will not have our best interests or else they will be FIRED! I know I sound harsh when I criticize about someones weight on a public forum (I apologize) but in all honesty, I speak the truth! Overweight is not professional or healthy.. Peace to you Xray. This is not personal, Im sorry :(

TEN

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Originally Posted by surfnski (Post 2034991)

Did you guys know OC moonlights as singer/songwriter under the pseudonym of Lyle Lovett? Apparently it got him 3 years in the sack with Julia Roberts ;)

If OC reads this, he'll be laughing his ass off!

Carl

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Originally Posted by Xray678 (Post 2034552)

While I would agree that no one on the fourth floor is very good at seeing things from a pilots perspective, I have to laugh at the idea of OC having more of a pilot perspective than SD or JG.

Based on what?

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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley (Post 2033499)

36% pay raise in 3 years is nothing to shy away from. Compound it. Without touching profit sharing. If you get 20% from profit sharing and the 36%, this will pass. I might add with no concessions, I'm done giving.

That being said, I understand your feeling, this is pretty much my minimum. We've given so much, it's payback time. Delta is debt free, buying back stock and paying dividends thanks to the sacrifices of us. 50% pay cuts and lost pensions are not forgotten.

It's a 39.7% raise.

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Originally Posted by ERflyer (Post 2035510)

It's a 39.7% raise.

Oh Shhhhhh!@#$!!!!! The ERflyer machine is about to start up..Stand by for posts that will tell us how we F'd up by voting No and that we will never see this "opener" come to fruition. Add in some key words like "TMV, Unlocking Value, Money in your pocket ". And then, utilize these key words in sentences that show that we will never recapture what we voted NO on...FIRE AWAY ER!!!!!:D:D:D

TEN

Yep. ERflyer will start ranting about black swans, and soiling his pants about the price of oil soaring.

The guy has a debilitating case of risk aversion. It's a miracle he even gets out of bed.

Anyway, management loves it when he posts.

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Originally Posted by TenYearsGone (Post 2035592)

There were legitimate reasons to vote no. I was simply stating the fact that our new counter offer is asking for a 39.7% raise.

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Originally Posted by satchip (Post 2035624)

Who the heck is OC?

O C is - Managing Director, Flying OPS. Effectively the Chief Pilots' Chief Pilot - they all work for him.