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Old 01-04-2016, 06:06 AM
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Default UAL Hourly Rates 1/1/16 19% Higher

UAL 1/1/16

A 330 and 767-400

Captain $305.39 Delta $256.68 difference 19%

First Officer $$208.59 Delta $175.31 difference 19%

The United pilots have these hourly rates and virtually the same profit sharing. (Source UAL TA Q and A)

There DC is higher and their vacation max is significantly superior.

FedEx vacation max 216 hours

Southwest vacation max 210 hours

Delta current vacation max 113:45 hours.

IMO Delta 2016 PTIX $10 BILLION PLUS.
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Maybe on 2/1/16 but not now... those are the UAL TA numbers, not the current contract.
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Maybe on 2/1/16 but not now... those are the UAL TA numbers, not the current contract.
Let's be real, it will pass.

But I take your point and it is correct.

Thanks!
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Hopefully those are numbers you DAL guys can easily exceed, just keep all your profit sharing please!
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Originally Posted by Chuck D View Post
Maybe on 2/1/16 but not now... those are the UAL TA numbers, not the current contract.
The scale I saw was dated 1/1/2016. If it passes, it's back dated to the first of the year.

See here http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/de...ml#post2039600
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Originally Posted by notEnuf View Post
The scale I saw was dated 1/1/2016. If it passes, it's back dated to the first of the year.

See here http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/de...ml#post2039600
Not Backdated if it passes rates are effective 2/1/16 (first bid period after it passes)
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Just for accuracy:

Max vacation 42 days x 3.25 hrs per day. (25 yrs longevity)

DC is 16%
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Originally Posted by gzsg View Post
UAL 1/1/16

A 330 and 767-400

Captain $305.39 Delta $256.68 difference 19%

First Officer $$208.59 Delta $175.31 difference 19%

The United pilots have these hourly rates and virtually the same profit sharing. (Source UAL TA Q and A)

There DC is higher and their vacation max is significantly superior.

FedEx vacation max 216 hours

Southwest vacation max 210 hours

Delta current vacation max 113:45 hours.

IMO Delta 2016 PTIX $10 BILLION PLUS.
Maybe JMO, but 88ish A330 and 764s are a bunch of airframes to be on International B scale vs AMR/UAL. That and the complete mess on narrow body rates. 737,m88,320 could/should easily be the same rate. OFG
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Maybe JMO, but 88ish A330 and 764s are a bunch of airframes to be on International B scale vs AMR/UAL. That and the complete mess on narrow body rates. 737,m88,320 could/should easily be the same rate. OFG
I disagree. We will exceed the UAL hourly rates 19% plus 1/1/16 retro and keep profit sharing untouched or any TA will fail and ALPA will be gone.

Our narrowbody rates will be awesome.

That being said,

I have 100% faith in Captain Malone and the Negotiating committee. And the March 1st MEC will be the best in ALPA history by far.
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Any guess what the survey results would look like if it were taken now? I'm not sure even the opener is a passable contract.
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