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Originally Posted by Hank Kingsley
(Post 2086593)
If he had just taken a communications class at C Springs, he would have been on the White House lawn and not his brother.
Some of these guys are just more comfortable in an office 8-5, M-F, yapping on the phone and going to meetings, than being out in the real world, flying airplanes. I've never understood it, but that's been my observation over the years in the military and here. There are some 'Pilots' who just don't like to fly!:eek: |
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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2086600)
That's probably where he'll end up, I don't see him ever returning to the line to be -just a pilot-. I'd bet he's trying to get into a NMB gig in DC, or a position at ALPA National, or some other Government funded job in DC.
Some of these guys are just more comfortable in an office 8-5, M-F, yapping on the phone and going to meetings, than being out in the real world, flying airplanes. I've never understood it, but that's been my observation over the years in the military and here. There are some 'Pilots' who just don't like to fly!:eek: |
This is great stuff. People are finally getting to see just how deeply the pro-management mindset had penetrated our union over the last 10 years.
We never stood a chance with these guys running the show. Since their defeat, Harwood and Culp and Parker and Mullis and all the other Moakies are taking off their masks. They're showing us what they really thought of us rocket surgeon pV$$y-whiner line pilots. I hope they will keep right on posting their opinions on Facebook. Its the surest way possible to guarantee they will never be allowed near the union offices again. |
Vacation, sick leave, training, retirement.......GFY
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Originally Posted by Papasmurf
(Post 2086520)
It's sad that we had DALPA union leaders negotiating FOR management.
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quote quote quote quote quote Where do I start?!?!! You boys are making feel proud of my union for the first time in a long long time!! Well said fellas!!!! |
Originally Posted by Big E 757
(Post 2086478)
Ok, I'll admit, I haven't done the math. But when I read the new Dalpa counter offer/proposal after the much needed house cleaning, are we really asking for 45% more than United's current rates? I thought we asked for 15/7/7 or thereabouts without concessions. Is Uncle Richie factoring in our higher profit sharing to help make the company's case for them? Where is he getting the 45% above currently highest hourly rates?
I don't like feeling so stoopid, but I have no idea why he is saying we are asking for a 45% premium. Please help me feel more smarter. (Caution: Grammatic/al errors added for effect) Aircraft DAL current proposed first year bump United current rate 757 226 275 255 777 270 329 305 737 218 265 246 I just picked 3 aircraft and did the math and it looks like if we actually got the 22% first year bump then we would only be 7% above United....not 45%. So Rich needs to show me his math. |
Although Harwood's 45% is not accurate or a bit too hyperbolic his chronology of pattern bargaining is close. The important point is Delta pilots enjoyed far greater compensation since 9/11 than any other US airline's pilot group due in large part to their constructive engagement with management that also helped prevent a merger with US Airways.
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Originally Posted by Timbo
(Post 2086600)
That's probably where he'll end up, I don't see him ever returning to the line to be -just a pilot-. I'd bet he's trying to get into a NMB gig in DC, or a position at ALPA National, or some other Government funded job in DC.
Some of these guys are just more comfortable in an office 8-5, M-F, yapping on the phone and going to meetings, than being out in the real world, flying airplanes. I've never understood it, but that's been my observation over the years in the military and here. There are some 'Pilots' who just don't like to fly!:eek: |
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