This was clarified by Ed Sternstein. The LCA are not the enforcers of the lanyard policy. Enforcement is a chief pilot responsibility, and if they have decided not to enforce it, then the LCA are not going to either.

The LCA are expected to wear their Flight Standards lanyards when in a flight standards role. This can be interpreted whenever on duty.

His bottom line was that the LCA need to remain apolitical (for the marines, that means don't take either side) when flying the line.

 

I have it on very good authority at least one fleet has taken this thing to the extreme in demanding LCAs order anyone they are checking to remove lanyard. When asked what the LCA was supposed to do if the checkee refused, they were told to notify the checkee's Chief Pilot. They asked Then what? So, they called a chief pilot and he said he would support the LCA doing whatever he felt was appropriate, up to and including cancelling the flight.

Imagine that.

Hopefully, the guys fighting so hard against us won't benefit from the new contract. Oh. Wait.

 

I'm going to go ahead and say that didn't happen.

The thing people seem to forget is that the lanyard actually means nothing. It represents nothing and amounts to nothing.

At the end of the day, you will vote yes or no for whatever is put in front of you. That is all that is going to happen.

The ball is in managements court. If they think a POS is going to play they are silly.

The reality is that United got pay raises with no concessions, that's the lowest the company can go. That's it. The market has decided and that's it. Their play for concessions is a futile and lost play.

 

If you want to see management lose its mind, get rid of your blue, or black ink pens, and switch to filling out all company documents in pink glitter pen.

 

I also have it on good authority that SD said they were not going to enforce either. Note that recent SD memo's make no note of lanyards.

So Ed Sternstiens boss is not enforcing, Ed is not, yet a certain fleet is? Please name the fleet if you don't mind. In any case please report this to your Reps and Contract Admin.

Remember unless being checked (and even that is questionable) LCA's are not in your supervisory chain of command.

As always, be respectful, comply under protest, remind the LCA they are violating the contract, remind them thier LCA pay is a union negotiated benefit, and then take their name and report to Contract Admin and consider filing a grievance.

Yeah, the lanyards won't make or break a TA or negotiations. That said how much contract violation and intimidation is OK?

If particular LCA's want to play this role, perhaps they are OK with being placed in executive inactive union status.

 

Based on the fact that Delta Management is hard over on posting industry leading 'completion rates', I pity the fool LCA who cancels a flight, fighting over a lanyard!

 

It's not about the lanyard, and it's not even really about negotiations. It's about control and the proper pilot-management relationship. Management sees us in a subservient role and thinks we should be willing to take whatever scraps they give us. The previous union leadership didn't really do anything to dispel that notion, and clearly there's a certain portion of the pilot group that still sees themselves in that role. "If my commanding officer, err boss, says don't wear union swag, I'm not going to wear union swag." The new guys are trying to recalibrate this relationship as a partnership as equals. The highly visible orange is a symbol of that. Now I know some LCAs see themselves in management's camp, but not all or even the majority, and so making them enforce the lanyard policy would have been a truly dumb@ss move on management's part. Not surprised they're not going that route, and it seems like they've backed down on lanyard enforcement altogether.

 

Then they DID say something...

 

Hear! Hear!

 

Jungle, agree with your post with the exception of this: Now I know some LCAs see themselves in management's camp, but not all or even the majority.
I would say a minority of the LCAs do not think of themselves as management.