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Big E 757 03-24-2016 01:22 PM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2095706)
ALPA is on property, we (Virgin) do not have a CBA yet though. Thoughts?

If this did happen, which I don't think is in the realm of possibility, personally. I don't see how we could take on 60 more Airbii, and not take the pilots. I think we have 4 sims, there is nooooo way we could train enough guys to take that operation over without the pilots. Some of those aircraft would sit for years before we had the guys to operate them, thus negating any benefit of buying them in the first place.

I'm not advocating leaving their pilots twisting in the wind, just speaking from a practical, objective standpoint.

Pogey Bait 03-24-2016 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Big E 757 (Post 2095717)
If this did happen, which I don't think is in the realm of possibility, personally. I don't see how we could take on 60 more Airbii, and not take the pilots. I think we have 4 sims, there is nooooo way we could train enough guys to take that operation over without the pilots. Some of those aircraft would sit for years before we had the guys to operate them, thus negating any benefit of buying them in the first place.

I'm not advocating leaving their pilots twisting in the wind, just speaking from a practical, objective standpoint.

And you would gain a sim in Burlingame as well.

GogglesPisano 03-24-2016 02:14 PM

It would be quite a uniform change. :D

GogglesPisano 03-24-2016 02:17 PM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2095706)
ALPA is on property, we (Virgin) do not have a CBA yet though. Thoughts?

My thoughts? There's not a snowball's chance in hell the DOJ would allow any legacy carrier to acquire any other airline.* Consolidation in the LCC segment, however, is long overdue.

*Not to mention we're in the business of buying foreign airlines these days.

Dirtdiver 03-24-2016 02:23 PM

Never happen because VAs airplanes are too new. Now if they had some 30 year old DC-9s...

Reroute 03-24-2016 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2095764)
My thoughts? There's not a snowball's chance in hell the DOJ would allow any legacy carrier to acquire any other airline.* Consolidation in the LCC segment, however, is long overdue.

*Not to mention we're in the business of buying foreign airlines these days.

I disagree, with only 58 aircraft and 600 pilots it would have no real material affect on the marketplace. The DOJ would approve it.

WhatNow 03-24-2016 02:43 PM


Originally Posted by Pogey Bait (Post 2095706)
ALPA is on property, we (Virgin) do not have a CBA yet though. Thoughts?

Without a CBA There would be no language to force the employees at VA to be part of the transaction.
We as Delta pilots should however make every possible effort to force the management teams to bring the pilots over. I suspect the price of that support from Dalpa would be a prenuptial agreement on the SLI.
I think this is simply a wild rumor however I do find it interesting that Delta management has put out that they need 50 additional narrow body airframes for the domestic system in the next few years and they were looking at used options.

Whereisalpa 03-24-2016 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by GogglesPisano (Post 2095758)
It would be quite a uniform change. :D


Had not thought of that!!! Brass buttons, extra tall hat, tie!!! Maybe we could add white gloves and gold shoulder braids so we could always tell who they are. Like the blue background on the North IDs!!!

Hank Kingsley 03-24-2016 04:56 PM

Some would have you fenced for 20 years, be careful what you wish for.

David Puddy 03-24-2016 07:30 PM

JB or Spirit would be the most likely successful suitors. Same fleet types and VA's route structure is complementary with the routes of both JB and Spirit. I personally believe JB is the most likely given the similar model to VA (Spirit is ultra low cost).

No way will a legacy get the chance to swallow another small competitor... Never gonna happen given the potential for a consumer/regulator revolt.


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