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Originally Posted by hvydvr
(Post 2122401)
No orange to new hires. I think they are still giving out the black and red ones at the dinner.
They didn't even give us black and red ones. I've got my alpa pin on my tie and orange bag tag though. |
Originally Posted by scambo1
(Post 2122670)
I was at the training center recently (looked for finis, nowhere in sight but saw an a$$ ton of new hires. I was as giddy to see them as they were to be here.). Anyway, I digress. I only saw two line pilots without orange. Exactly the opposite experience.
I agree with you....I see orange on pilots a lot more than I see pilots without it. |
Originally Posted by Redbird611
(Post 2122709)
Indeed. I wish everyone understood that. I've gotten flak from two Captains now for not having an orange lanyard despite being on probation. I'm sorry, but I've seen hostages taken before. The ALPA pin will have to do for a few months.
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Have noticed more orange on every trip. It's definitely catching on. Kinda disappointing that guys waited so long to test the waters, though. That sends a message of its own.
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
(Post 2123063)
Have noticed more orange on every trip. It's definitely catching on. Kinda disappointing that guys waited so long to test the waters, though. That sends a message of its own.
I think there is a lot of pent up "militancy" out there. You can feel it on the line and in the lounges. Every time management puts out a memo telling us how great we are and how we need to keep up the operational excellence, guys are only getting more disgusted and angry. And its not just senior management. The whole Flight Ops structure from Dickson to the chief pilots and right down to the line check airmen is going to start losing credibility and respect. Ed giving interviews where he attributes Delta's recovery and recent success to the great employees and the fabulous "culture" is just the latest insult. How on Earth can he say that stuff while he still has the pilot group working under our bankruptcy concessions? Ed and everybody else may have recovered and prospered but we are still waiting. The loss of our pensions was a devastating blow to a large segment of the pilot group. It really hurts to see the corporation now paying off all its debts and buying back all that stock and paying the huge bonuses to management and buying other airlines all over the world, etc. etc.. There needs to be some acknowledgement of the enormous sacrifice made by the pilots with that pension termination and at least an attempt to give us a chance to make up some of that loss. Right now the MEC is pretty much keeping a lid on the boiling pot. They're saying there is no reason we shouldn't have a deal "this summer". That has left the impression that things are moving along and management is still negotiating in good faith. I hope that is true, but if its not... Sometime "this summer" Malone is going to blow the whistle. |
Well said Check E!! Tic toc, the clock is winding down!! We have given enough, way more than enough. Sleepy Ed may wish he took more, but if you ask my family he took it all !!!!
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Check your email. Informational picketing scheduled, all bases. Be there, be square.
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Why do guys NOT wear the orange? Are they against the direction the union wants to go or are they just scared of the company? Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by cards5
(Post 2135612)
Why do guys NOT wear the orange? Are they against the direction the union wants to go or are they just scared of the company? Any thoughts?
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Originally Posted by cards5
(Post 2135612)
Why do guys NOT wear the orange? Are they against the direction the union wants to go or are they just scared of the company? Any thoughts?
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