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Old 04-01-2016 | 12:42 PM
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Simply outstanding! !



United's me too language and American's Doug Parker commitment for his pilots to have the highest pay ensures our management that we will be competitive and our counterproposal is more than fair. More than reasonable.


When we took the survey and cemented our counterproposal, not one Delta pilot knew our 2016 profits were going to be up 48%.



Our negotiators nailed it yet again
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Old 04-01-2016 | 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Simply outstanding! !



United's me too language and American's Doug Parker commitment for his pilots to have the highest pay ensures our management that we will be competitive and our counterproposal is more than fair. More than reasonable.


When we took the survey and cemented our counterproposal, not one Delta pilot knew our 2016 profits were going to be up 48%.



Our negotiators nailed it yet again
I must admit, I was smiling by the end of it. In the words of Judge Chamberlain Haller it "was lucid, intelligent, and well thought out".
Pitch perfect.
Especially after the last couple of weeks watching the TA15 guys defend their POS here and on FB. It's healthy to question, but their hypocrisy and 5th grade antics are embarrassing.
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Old 04-01-2016 | 06:39 PM
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I must admit, I was smiling by the end of it. In the words of Judge Chamberlain Haller it "was lucid, intelligent, and well thought out".
Pitch perfect.
Especially after the last couple of weeks watching the TA15 guys defend their POS here and on FB. It's healthy to question, but their hypocrisy and 5th grade antics are embarrassing.
It's was nothing short of criminal for them to say profits had peaked when they all knew profits would be soaring in 2016.

Hedging idiocy gone and huge drop in jet fuel prices.
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Old 04-01-2016 | 06:51 PM
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well....why not?......they have been ****ing down our backs and telling us its raining for years......and in general most swallowed it...
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Old 04-01-2016 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BobZ
well....why not?......they have been ****ing down our backs and telling us its raining for years......and in general most swallowed it...
damn it Bob. We need more entertaining analogies.
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Old 04-01-2016 | 07:39 PM
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Good call....Its late.... actually, what I meant to say was........INCONCEIVABLE!!

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Old 04-02-2016 | 07:07 AM
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That was an outstanding update. Finally a negotiating committee that can use economics to argue for the pilots, not for management. These guys get it.

Continual historic record profits while our costs are well below the industry standard. Thank you Steve, Heiko, Jeff and Ron. You have my trust and full support.
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Old 04-02-2016 | 08:21 AM
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The old DAL ALPA douche bags are gone... time to move forward with full restoration. Absolutely Zero Concessions !!!
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Old 04-02-2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by whaledriver1
The old DAL ALPA douche bags are gone... time to move forward with full restoration. Absolutely Zero Concessions !!!

I am no fan of the philosophy of the previous DALPA administration but I am not sure continually berating them helps.

In my opinion by continually denigrating them we are prolonging unnecessary division within the Pilot group. The more we continue to take shots at them the more they feel compelled to prove they were right.

This leads to foolish FB diatribes that sow division in the Pilot group.

Best to just to let them fade away. I would prefer that short of academic analysis, studying and learning from past mistakes, that we just ignore them.

Just my 2 cents - Scoop
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Old 04-02-2016 | 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Scoop
I am no fan of the philosophy of the previous DALPA administration but I am not sure continually berating them helps.

In my opinion by continually denigrating them we are prolonging unnecessary division within the Pilot group. The more we continue to take shots at them the more they feel compelled to prove they were right.

This leads to foolish FB diatribes that sow division in the Pilot group.

Best to just to let them fade away. I would prefer that short of academic analysis, studying and learning from past mistakes, that we just ignore them.

Just my 2 cents - Scoop
They certainly deserve to be ignored.

It's nice to finally hear our reps argue the pilots perspective.

We were never going to make big gains having folks in there who thought management was correct and it was the pilots who were wrong.

Inconceivable!
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