Reserve trip pick up
05-31-2016 | 10:23 AM
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I'm on reserve as a ATL 717B dude, and the PWA and Crew Scheduling Handbook both talk about greenslips the following way:
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
There is so much more involved in explaining the periphery that I will leave that out of it.
Denny
05-31-2016 | 10:25 AM
#12
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I'm on reserve as a ATL 717B dude, and the PWA and Crew Scheduling Handbook both talk about greenslips the following way:
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
Credit is flight time+deadhead time+any daily guarantee. Pre-117 there was a 30 day max of 100 hrs. No credit made the trip invisible FAR-wise.
Post 117, we have a lookback of 100 hrs max in a rolling 672 hrs (28 days). Only the hard blocktime is used. But GS block hrs count against this.
Thats how my pea brain looks at it. The official answer is probably different.
05-31-2016 | 10:51 AM
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I'm on reserve as a ATL 717B dude, and the PWA and Crew Scheduling Handbook both talk about greenslips the following way:
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
05-31-2016 | 11:04 AM
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I'm on reserve as a ATL 717B dude, and the PWA and Crew Scheduling Handbook both talk about greenslips the following way:
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
05-31-2016 | 12:52 PM
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GS is a request to fly for premium pay. You control the preferences on a GS. IA is crew scheduling telling you what you will do, when and for how long. Both pay double for a lineholder, so if you are able and willing to fly, put in a GS and have a little more control. A bottle of whiskey near the phone in case the wife or kids answer a 404 number is a good technique on your days off. Take a shot, then say hello.
05-31-2016 | 12:53 PM
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I'm on reserve as a ATL 717B dude, and the PWA and Crew Scheduling Handbook both talk about greenslips the following way:
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
"will receive single pay, no credit (above his reserve guarantee) for the portion of a GS
rotation that he flew and that interrupted an X day or was flown after his accumulated
credit equaled the ALV, and additional time free of duty under Section 23.S.11"
What does it mean to get NO CREDIT? If you can translate this paragraph into plain English I'd be obliged...
If you GS a trip on reserve on your on call day outside of your short or long call obligation, you can move an X day to that day and get GS pay and the X day paid back. That's how you can turn an ordinary reserve day into a GS.
05-31-2016 | 01:40 PM
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...doesn't count toward your reserve guarantee but is paid on top of your guarantee.
If you GS a trip on reserve on your on call day outside of your short or long call obligation, you can move an X day to that day and get GS pay and the X day paid back. That's how you can turn an ordinary reserve day into a GS.
If you GS a trip on reserve on your on call day outside of your short or long call obligation, you can move an X day to that day and get GS pay and the X day paid back. That's how you can turn an ordinary reserve day into a GS.
Heres how I do it...My trips are different.
With scheduler concurrence, you can move an x day to the first day of a trip...Do this when they offer a GS on on call days (probably not wise on the 717.
Move other x days under the footprint of the trip 72 hours out. Thats the window for x day moves.
4 day GS on on call days.
Gs gs gs gs
X........X..X
You will always lose the second day of the GS AND the scheduler is not required to move an x day under the first day of the gs.
05-31-2016 | 04:43 PM
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Hes 717 so x day moving might be tough.
Heres how I do it...My trips are different.
With scheduler concurrence, you can move an x day to the first day of a trip...Do this when they offer a GS on on call days (probably not wise on the 717.
Move other x days under the footprint of the trip 72 hours out. Thats the window for x day moves.
4 day GS on on call days.
Gs gs gs gs
X........X..X
You will always lose the second day of the GS AND the scheduler is not required to move an x day under the first day of the gs.
Heres how I do it...My trips are different.
With scheduler concurrence, you can move an x day to the first day of a trip...Do this when they offer a GS on on call days (probably not wise on the 717.
Move other x days under the footprint of the trip 72 hours out. Thats the window for x day moves.
4 day GS on on call days.
Gs gs gs gs
X........X..X
You will always lose the second day of the GS AND the scheduler is not required to move an x day under the first day of the gs.
I was referring to 23.U.1.b.2) Note two. You can get a GS on a regular reserve day and move an X day to get the "above guarantee" pay and then get your X day back, and it may end up right where it was but as a PB day. If you can move more X days into the footprint great, but you can always move one instantly to the first day regardless of coverage or PCS times.
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