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Old 08-09-2016 | 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by notEnuf
I think the eyeballs are all looking at new hire stuff. This one sub sub sub section of a forum that is embedded in an industry information site is not a priority, I'm guessing. I think the site makes the money the owners expect or changes would have been made.
Seems reasonable enough.

Lets discuss it now. I read it and I think rubes number was 19%. Probably a trial balloon floated. I'd take 19% in a pay only LOA while we stay in sect. 6 to negotiate the rest. American seems to think that good will has value.
I guess the piece that I was interested in was the rationale as to not getting a deal, compared to what was allegedly on the table. I'd like to re-read it to see what else was in it beyond payrates. Because it's certainly pretty tough to consider a TA without the major pieces of Sections 1 and 3. Is vacation sellback still on the table? Retro? Changes to PS?
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Old 08-09-2016 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Seems reasonable enough.



I guess the piece that I was interested in was the rationale as to not getting a deal, compared to what was allegedly on the table. I'd like to re-read it to see what else was in it beyond payrates. Because it's certainly pretty tough to consider a TA without the major pieces of Sections 1 and 3. Is vacation sellback still on the table? Retro? Changes to PS?
Not my rumor, I have no idea. I still like my LOA idea better. But I guess then there would be nothing to discuss.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
One guy that I read for a little different take is Rube. He had a post that seemed to highlight the issues surrounding our contract pretty well, as well as a bit of information about a rep that wasn't flattering, but seemed to accurately quote a post by that rep.
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I didn't say accuracy, I said I was looking for rumors. His post was interesting enough.

You think you deserve to be heard more than him, or less?
I think Rube should be taken with a grain of salt. His rants are borderline insane.
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Old 08-09-2016 | 07:05 PM
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Has Rube been banned?
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Old 08-09-2016 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Thanks Scoop. What was disrespectful about the post that couldn't be cleared up?
I don't know but I will look into it.

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Old 08-09-2016 | 08:11 PM
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All of rube's posts have been getting increasingly inflammatory (al la purple drank).

All that happened was he got a reminder to tone down the inflammatory nature of his posting and contribute in a more positive manner. I'm sure he'll be able to play in the sandbox nicely from here on out.

Banned? Do you see banned under his user name? If not, then nope... not banned.
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Old 08-10-2016 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
All of rube's posts have been getting increasingly inflammatory (al la purple drank).

All that happened was he got a reminder to tone down the inflammatory nature of his posting and contribute in a more positive manner. I'm sure he'll be able to play in the sandbox nicely from here on out.
Cool. You go ahead and work with rube and purple. Purple has an interest in identities once again, and ad hominem attacks as always.

I'm happy to discuss the post via PM, if you'll work with me to edit out the offensive part. I don't think the post was mostly rube anyway. I think he was quoting a member explaining why we're not getting a TA soon, and a rep going medieval on that member. Pretty vanilla internet stuff.
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Old 08-10-2016 | 08:16 AM
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Scoop- maybe discuss the TOU with the Admins , prohibit multiple user accounts.

The obvious use of multiple accounts is out of control here.
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Old 08-10-2016 | 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Kabosh
Scoop- maybe discuss the TOU with the Admins , prohibit multiple user accounts.

The obvious use of multiple accounts is out of control here.

No need to discuss. If you know of anybody using more than one - let us know.

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Old 08-10-2016 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
Cool. You go ahead and work with rube and purple. Purple has an interest in identities once again, and ad hominem attacks as always.

I'm happy to discuss the post via PM, if you'll work with me to edit out the offensive part. I don't think the post was mostly rube anyway. I think he was quoting a member explaining why we're not getting a TA soon, and a rep going medieval on that member. Pretty vanilla internet stuff.
Sink,

Rube is free to clean up his previous post and re-post at any time. We are trying to avoid the type of environment you can see at Chit Chat: Guys cursing at each other and plenty of flame-baiting posts.

With that said we are unable to read/monitor every post on every thread so if you see something objectionable please let a moderator know.

Thanks Scoop
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