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10-18-2017, 07:25 PM
#1592
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Originally Posted by qball
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10-19-2017, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tcamou
How often do those come out?
It would cost next to nothing to implement while greatly benefiting the pilot group.
Waiting for an AE could take YEARS if the music stops. All the while you have two interchangeable pilots wanting to trade places, but with no way of doing it.
10-19-2017, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
A QOL improvement I'd like to see is an monthly, automated, base trade option.
It would cost next to nothing to implement while greatly benefiting the pilot group.
Waiting for an AE could take YEARS if the music stops. All the while you have two interchangeable pilots wanting to trade places, but with no way of doing it.
It would cost next to nothing to implement while greatly benefiting the pilot group.
Waiting for an AE could take YEARS if the music stops. All the while you have two interchangeable pilots wanting to trade places, but with no way of doing it.
Well, you run into a problem trying to do this within a seniority based system. On the surface it sounds good but it could be an abrogation of seniority unless training in a new aircraft is allowed. In the situation you describe (stopped music), the company wouldn’t like that. And then you have the guy whose senior in a different base who wants to move but cannot. It’s not as easy as just two guys wanting to swap positions.
Denny
10-20-2017, 01:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
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Well, you run into a problem trying to do this within a seniority based system. On the surface it sounds good but it could be an abrogation of seniority unless training in a new aircraft is allowed. In the situation you describe (stopped music), the company wouldn’t like that. And then you have the guy whose senior in a different base who wants to move but cannot. It’s not as easy as just two guys wanting to swap positions.
Denny
Well, you run into a problem trying to do this within a seniority based system. On the surface it sounds good but it could be an abrogation of seniority unless training in a new aircraft is allowed. In the situation you describe (stopped music), the company wouldn’t like that. And then you have the guy whose senior in a different base who wants to move but cannot. It’s not as easy as just two guys wanting to swap positions.
Denny
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
10-20-2017, 04:13 AM
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Originally Posted by LumberJack
How is swapping an ATL320A with a DTW320A detrimental to seniority? I can see what you mean with the list in those two bases getting shifted slightly depending on the relative seniorities of the captains, but it's a wash overall. And now you have two happy pilots where before you had two stuck pilots.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
We had the same thing at Chautauqua with the caveat that anyone senior could squash the trade. Guess how many swaps went through?
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