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#1601
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,898
How is swapping an ATL320A with a DTW320A detrimental to seniority? I can see what you mean with the list in those two bases getting shifted slightly depending on the relative seniorities of the captains, but it's a wash overall. And now you have two happy pilots where before you had two stuck pilots.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
At most airlines, a vacancy has to exist first.
#1602
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Posts: 19,273
How is swapping an ATL320A with a DTW320A detrimental to seniority? I can see what you mean with the list in those two bases getting shifted slightly depending on the relative seniorities of the captains, but it's a wash overall. And now you have two happy pilots where before you had two stuck pilots.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
#1603
Trying to Train
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 57
For general knowledge I read FAR/AIM, Everything for the Professional pilot, Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators, and did the RST (ready set takeoff) course.
The RST course has a cognitive test trainer as well that I found beneficial.
If I had to do it again I would read the same stuff and do the RST course but would not do Emerald Coast interview prep. In my opinion the HR portion of the interview is not about getting the “right” answer as much as showing that you can think, communicate, and are not a tool. In other words, “your” answer is more important than the “right” answer.
#1604
How is swapping an ATL320A with a DTW320A detrimental to seniority? I can see what you mean with the list in those two bases getting shifted slightly depending on the relative seniorities of the captains, but it's a wash overall. And now you have two happy pilots where before you had two stuck pilots.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
It's done at other airlines, we just haven't implemented it yet.
And again, what would the company care if those two captains swapped? It doesn't change anything other than vacation. If your vacation is available in the new base, you keep it, if not, you pick from available weeks. It's very straight forward.
Denny
#1605
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2015
Position: I got into this business so I wouldn't have to work.
Posts: 1,034
I did emerald coast....was good to help prepare my 4 min intro but not necessary for anything else....they will not tell you that at emerald coast of course.
For general knowledge I read FAR/AIM, Everything for the Professional pilot, Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators, and did the RST (ready set takeoff) course.
The RST course has a cognitive test trainer as well that I found beneficial.
If I had to do it again I would read the same stuff and do the RST course but would not do Emerald Coast interview prep. In my opinion the HR portion of the interview is not about getting the “right” answer as much as showing that you can think, communicate, and are not a tool. In other words, “your” answer is more important than the “right” answer.
For general knowledge I read FAR/AIM, Everything for the Professional pilot, Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators, and did the RST (ready set takeoff) course.
The RST course has a cognitive test trainer as well that I found beneficial.
If I had to do it again I would read the same stuff and do the RST course but would not do Emerald Coast interview prep. In my opinion the HR portion of the interview is not about getting the “right” answer as much as showing that you can think, communicate, and are not a tool. In other words, “your” answer is more important than the “right” answer.
But if you're that rock-solid, congrats. I used EC. I thought it was worth every penny to polish my act, seeing as this was my one shot at the job I wanted with the company I wanted to work at.
Of course, your mileage may vary.
To the original question, I also found M3: The Mile, The Mach, and The Minute to be a great refresher for the knowledge test.
#1606
I did emerald coast....was good to help prepare my 4 min intro but not necessary for anything else....they will not tell you that at emerald coast of course.
For general knowledge I read FAR/AIM, Everything for the Professional pilot, Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators, and did the RST (ready set takeoff) course.
The RST course has a cognitive test trainer as well that I found beneficial.
If I had to do it again I would read the same stuff and do the RST course but would not do Emerald Coast interview prep. In my opinion the HR portion of the interview is not about getting the “right” answer as much as showing that you can think, communicate, and are not a tool. In other words, “your” answer is more important than the “right” answer.
For general knowledge I read FAR/AIM, Everything for the Professional pilot, Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators, and did the RST (ready set takeoff) course.
The RST course has a cognitive test trainer as well that I found beneficial.
If I had to do it again I would read the same stuff and do the RST course but would not do Emerald Coast interview prep. In my opinion the HR portion of the interview is not about getting the “right” answer as much as showing that you can think, communicate, and are not a tool. In other words, “your” answer is more important than the “right” answer.
I tend to say what I'm thinking, I don't have a poker face and if I think you're an effing retard you can see it in my expression. I'm honest to a fault and rarely lie or exaggerate so I'm not good at it. I say things that make fighter pilots shake their heads. For me ECC was essential to getting hired.
Sun Tzu was a wise old 'feller. “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”
If you need interview prep you know it, if you don't need it you also probably know it. If you're not sure which is worse, not needing it and wasting $400 or needing it and blowing your interview?
#1608
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,909
With this kind of set up it might. But if there's a waiting list of pilots who want into a particular base, the system wouldn't have to work like this. Just like our swap board - everyone has to have a shot at any opportunity, and seniority wins. All this base shuffle does is allow movements that would otherwise happen a few times a year happen much more quickly. Seems like a win all around - junior or senior.
#1609
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 4,909
Who cares? Doesn't make it a good idea. Pairing base movement to vacancies is no law of nature. The two need not be related with a base swap swap board analagous to our rotation swap board. I could see a monthly base swap working great. Bids due by the 11th of every month on the CQ timeline (two months lead). Swappers would have to yield their vacation allocation if the new base couldn't accommodate. And along that line, we could also have a vacation swap board.
As long as seniority is applied appropriately, I don't get the resistance to such hypothetical flexibility.
As long as seniority is applied appropriately, I don't get the resistance to such hypothetical flexibility.
#1610
Super Moderator
Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Who says it has to be Pilot specific? Why would your Captain A go before a more senior Pilot wanting the same swap? Every guy interested in the swaps put in his request. The WOPR than runs the complete list system wide and awards swap in straight seniority order.
For an air-frame like the 737 that is represented at every single Pilot base this has potential. Yes there are definitely details to work out, but I am pretty sure that it could be worked out if there was a desire to do so.
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