The Majority IS.
09-02-2016 | 09:55 AM
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No, they don't. They provide direction, but they do not own the NC. You are assigning blame to a majority of the MEC for something you don't like.
Last year the majority said VOTE YES!!! Now the majority wants to get us a product that they don't have to tell us to vote YES for because it will be self-evident that it is worthy of a YES. If only that majority were larger on the MEC.
Please try to be patient. I am likely one in the middle of the bell curve. And I am in no hurry.
Last year the majority said VOTE YES!!! Now the majority wants to get us a product that they don't have to tell us to vote YES for because it will be self-evident that it is worthy of a YES. If only that majority were larger on the MEC.
Please try to be patient. I am likely one in the middle of the bell curve. And I am in no hurry.
09-02-2016 | 09:59 AM
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The Moakies picked this MC/NC. Fortunately 12 MEC members are trying to get us the best possible TA despite the handcuffs from your crowd.
09-02-2016 | 11:33 AM
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The NC works for them. They're in charge. They're in charge of the MEC as well. I hold them accountable for their actions.
09-02-2016 | 11:38 AM
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Is this like a Fifty Shades thing? can't they just say a safe word, or something, so it stops?
09-02-2016 | 11:47 AM
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In a perfect world, the MC/NC should be pulled and replaced by like minded people as the MEC and this pilot group. Unfortunately, that's not happening, at least not yet.
09-02-2016 | 11:52 AM
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09-02-2016 | 12:11 PM
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You can't be in charge, and not accountable. The MEC owns the AIP's and the process, and the 12 own the MEC.
09-02-2016 | 12:11 PM
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Right now, there is no real plan. These guys are frozen solid. They may or may not let the NC reach a TA. If they try to go back on their own AIP's, we're probably done for a long time, and there is no way to get released to strike from a point where you're way above the industry in your asks, and not negotiating.
On the other hand, a 65% no lets you go back in, specify what needs to be changed, and get a deal. That's a serious, serious hammer. The vote results give you a place to start from. I can't see how a leader fears a vote, if they're confident that they have the true pulse of the group.
I think these guys are scared because they have the pulse of the group, but refuse to accept the readings. They also have a very tight read on the supporters that keep them elected, and they're not in agreement. There is a conflict of interest at play.
I had two of the 12 tell me directly that for the most part, the group is where it always is, since the AIP's: the middle of the bell-curve asks questions, and waits for a vote (that's your majority, right there), one small-end of the curve wants to take the company's offer yesterday, and the other small-end has already decided to vote no, so they don't want a vote.
On the other hand, a 65% no lets you go back in, specify what needs to be changed, and get a deal. That's a serious, serious hammer. The vote results give you a place to start from. I can't see how a leader fears a vote, if they're confident that they have the true pulse of the group.
I think these guys are scared because they have the pulse of the group, but refuse to accept the readings. They also have a very tight read on the supporters that keep them elected, and they're not in agreement. There is a conflict of interest at play.
I had two of the 12 tell me directly that for the most part, the group is where it always is, since the AIP's: the middle of the bell-curve asks questions, and waits for a vote (that's your majority, right there), one small-end of the curve wants to take the company's offer yesterday, and the other small-end has already decided to vote no, so they don't want a vote.
09-02-2016 | 12:22 PM
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Yes. They've been handcuffed by the NC the Moakies put in place. The AIPs were not what the MEC asked the NC to do.
In a perfect world, the MC/NC should be pulled and replaced by like minded people as the MEC and this pilot group. Unfortunately, that's not happening, at least not yet.
In a perfect world, the MC/NC should be pulled and replaced by like minded people as the MEC and this pilot group. Unfortunately, that's not happening, at least not yet.
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