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Hank Kingsley 09-09-2016 12:41 PM
Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2197666)
I have an even better idea.
Go ahead, this is amazing stuff.

TED74 09-09-2016 06:10 PM
Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 2199186)
There's zero chance it will be our current 737-900 rate unless there's some Cayman/Suisse accounts somewhere getting huge transfers. Even then it would be hard to do.

There's no way an arbitrator will ignore the 15-20% premium our direct peers already get and somehow index the rate to our already lagging horribly expired pay tables.

Look for another "Delta dot" at least indexed to UAL's (etc) current rates with zero concessions.
That could have some interesting AE effects if negotiations go on for years.

notEnuf 09-09-2016 06:29 PM
Call your reps and make some noise. Where's the rate?

#321deltadot

Bainite 09-09-2016 06:43 PM
Lots of rotations with landings in DCA and LGA in the Oct bid pack. 757 size loads with 1/2 the brakes into short runways, what could go wrong?

Omar 111 09-09-2016 08:43 PM
Originally Posted by Bainite (Post 2199539)
Lots of rotations with landings in DCA and LGA in the Oct bid pack. 757 size loads with 1/2 the brakes into short runways, what could go wrong?
Really.... You ain't seen nothing until you've seen a L-1011 doing the Expressway visual.

Omar

Piklepausepull 09-10-2016 06:08 AM
Originally Posted by Bainite (Post 2199539)
Lots of rotations with landings in DCA and LGA in the Oct bid pack. 757 size loads with 1/2 the brakes into short runways, what could go wrong?
The 88 acars/landing calculator, (whatever it's called), pretty much says the 88 cannot land at LGA, EVER!~

Yet it's done 200 times a day!:eek:

You'll get used to it!:D

sailingfun 09-10-2016 07:00 AM
Originally Posted by Omar 111 (Post 2199577)
Really.... You ain't seen nothing until you've seen a L-1011 doing the Expressway visual.

Omar
Or the 767-400! Even the 767-300 was fun with a full load!

Trivia item. One of the big reasons Delta bought the 767-400 over the A330 was the 400 could go into LGA. Have not seen one there in years. Oh well!

sailingfun 09-10-2016 07:02 AM
Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2199531)
Call your reps and make some noise. Where's the rate?

#321deltadot
I called my rep and demanded that they call the arbitrator on Monday and tell him to get off his ass and publish the rate or else! Rep thinks that's not a smart thing to do but what does he know!

notEnuf 09-10-2016 07:15 AM
Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 2199690)
I called my rep and demanded that they call the arbitrator on Monday and tell him to get off his ass and publish the rate or else! Rep thinks that's not a smart thing to do but what does he know!
It's a contractual limit, 60 days. There is no discretion. Unless he wants to hold up retro check for Airbi reservists.

Elliot 09-10-2016 07:53 AM
Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 2199699)
It's a contractual limit, 60 days. There is no discretion. Unless he wants to hold up retro check for Airbi reservists.
Agreed. After 60 days, I think the parking brake on the 321 should remain set until there's a pay rate.


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