Meanwhile, our butts are hanging in the breeze with this little thing called "MAINLINE BLOCK HOUR RATIO."

Hours. Seats. Hulls. All of it matters, not merely the parts that prop up your narrative.

He was talking about how many more pilots would be needed at Delta with Southwest's contract. It is relevant in relation to whether the Delta pilots should have to accept any concessions.

So you admit at least 4000. Now you are coming around. Now what would you apply to their vacation trip touching in line bidding. Delta only gives you 3:15 credit. Are you saying that wouldn't increase the Delta pilot group either?

As for the 4000 number at Delta Connection, that is the pilots required under subpar regional work rules. Apply Delta work rules and you are closer to 5000+.

That's just DCI. We keep buying airlines and signing JVs remember. The reality is we are a conglomerate. The only way to benefit from the conglomerate is to share in its profits. The other thousands of pilots flying Delta passengers work for Richard Branson and some guy named Shaoyong Liu.

Honest question. (Keep in mind, I haven't seen any language of "scope gives" yet. Just a bunch of blind, gibberish-filled bullet points from Jerry.)

You wouldn't make a compromise for more mainline flying, leading to more mainline pilots, to include less DCI flying/jets/pilots, to make a deal with Mgmt.?

Do you have such disdain for anything Delta (Mgmt.)? Disdain for getting a deal, that ultimately benefits this pilots group? Or just such a subterranean lack of how negotiations and compromises during negotiations work, that you wouldn't trade a $5 bill for the company's $100 bill?

We wouldn't be dealing with that if you guys hadn't have screwed up so bad last year...

Meanwhile Gerry threw out the number 8000. He just throws stuff out there hoping something is correct trying to promote his DPA agenda.

WN pilots fly wayyyy more block hours per pilot by the way. Those guys work freaking hard, even with trips touching.

Jerry's numbers are exaggerated, maybe for effect, but they're still wrong. He will never prove his numbers or show his math when called out on it, and loses the message with constant unsubstantiated rumors. Frankly, it has gotten old. I have NEVER been a fan of Doesn't Provide Anything for its membership, but Jerry just helps solidify the decision.

The 50s are gone. They are getting something for nothing in that trade. No thanks, stand firm and that will all come to mainline as the business model fails.

Sounds infraction worthy to me 80! ;) Let's see if Dalpa brings us a TA that sells itself. After the failed TA, they are due for a victory.

Ha! excellent effort! Elliott has had his wrist slapped plenty of times by me. 😁 I'll call that one a ball.

Agreed about the TA!