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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:24 PM
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In my opinion.


JV scope immediately in compliance.

Allowing convergence to block hours.

$300 million a year and beyond imagination going forward 10 years. Well over $1 Billion per year.

50 more 76 seat jets to DCI.

$300 million per year.

Aips

$200 million per year.

Total $800 million per year.

Cost neutral

Self funding

Why are we making concessions?
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:28 PM
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Did you do this math on the same calculator where you came up with 8000 more pilots for the WN agreement?
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Did you do this math on the same calculator where you came up with 8000 more pilots for the WN agreement?
Tell me something 80.

How many more Delta pilots if we flew all the DCI jets?

I know I'm crazy. Wanting Delta routes and Delta jets to be flown by Delta seniority list pilots.

I'm crazy and stupid because I don't think we should make concessions. The United, UPS, SWA and FedEx pilots are so dumb. Why can't they understand the Hanson method of concessions and self funding?

80 what are your numbers for scope concessions?

50 more 76 seat jets to DCI? $xxx

JV scope immediately in compliance? $xxx

JV scope to block hours? $xxx
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Did you do this math on the same calculator where you came up with 8000 more pilots for the WN agreement?
That's awesome. Looks like the bad dpa leaks started early.

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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:54 PM
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Too bad we will never see a costing sheet either. Gotta love this new transparency. We didn't give concessions we made some trades!

Could I pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today?
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Old 09-06-2016 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Did you do this math on the same calculator where you came up with 8000 more pilots for the WN agreement?
80, Please explain to us how he is wrong again?

Over 4000 pilots fly Delta Connection jets. Does Southwest allow 50-76 seat jets to be outsourced? Southwest also has line bidding with vacation trip touching. Explain to us how 3:15 credit per day at Delta is the same.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Tell me something 80.

How many more Delta pilots if we flew all the DCI jets?

I know I'm crazy. Wanting Delta routes and Delta jets to be flown by Delta seniority list pilots.

I'm crazy and stupid because I don't think we should make concessions. The United, UPS, SWA and FedEx pilots are so dumb. Why can't they understand the Hanson method of concessions and self funding?

80 what are your numbers for scope concessions?

50 more 76 seat jets to DCI? $xxx

JV scope immediately in compliance? $xxx

JV scope to block hours? $xxx
He won't answer your question because it will be an admission by himself that he was wrong that your numbers are wrong.

Your 8000 number is much closer to the truth that he will admit.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
He won't answer your question because it will be an admission by himself that he was wrong that your numbers are wrong.

Your 8000 number is much closer to the truth that(?) he will admit.
Sorry, but if you think the average line pilot, for the smallest fraction of a nano-second will hold out for a contract that brings all DCI flying in-house, seriously dude, you HAVE GOT TO give me the number for your supplier!
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Old 09-06-2016 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
Sorry, but if you think the average line pilot, for the smallest fraction of a nano-second will hold out for a contract that brings all DCI flying in-house, seriously dude, you HAVE GOT TO give me the number for your supplier!
How about just holding the line on what we have already given. No more SCOPE gives.
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Old 09-06-2016 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
80, Please explain to us how he is wrong again?

Over 4000 pilots fly Delta Connection jets. Does Southwest allow 50-76 seat jets to be outsourced? Southwest also has line bidding with vacation trip touching. Explain to us how 3:15 credit per day at Delta is the same.

So 4000= 8000? Math is hard!!
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