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gzsg 09-21-2016 09:47 AM

JV Scope Focus
 
Anyone who is not 100% focused on JV scope is not paying attention.

When you look at the VEBA debacle, how can we trust this administration to negotiate JV scope that will be iron clad with IMMEDIATE PENALTIES?

The very second management is out of compliance the harmed pilots need to be paid each and every month until management is back in compliance.

IMO management will immediately fall out of compliance and we will have our pants down around our ankles again.

JamesBond 09-21-2016 09:56 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2207626)
Anyone who is not 100% focused on JV scope is not paying attention.

When you look at the VEBA debacle, how can we trust this administration to negotiate JV scope that will be iron clad with IMMEDIATE PENALTIES?

The very second management is out of compliance the harmed pilots need to be paid each and every month until management is back in compliance.

IMO management will immediately fall out of compliance and we will have our pants down around our ankles again.

If we are 100% focused on JV scope, we cannot focus on anything else, right?

Dude seriously.

And what is it with some of you and the sexual metaphors?

trustbutverify 09-21-2016 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2207636)
If we are 100% focused on JV scope, we cannot focus on anything else, right?

Dude seriously.

And what is it with some of you and the sexual metaphors?

Great point about the 100% focus thing. But you have been asking the forum to start focusing on JV, so here's a thread devoted to that.

What do you know about JV in the current negotiations and what do you think needs to be done?

What I've seen (this is not directed at you), is that 737-800s and 321s are planned for trans-Atlantic routes. There were many on APC saying that wouldn't happen when the JV block hour conversion proposal was being contested.

JamesBond 09-21-2016 10:22 AM


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2207658)
Great point about the 100% focus thing. But you have been asking the forum to start focusing on JV, so here's a thread devoted to that.

What do you know about JV in the current negotiations and what do you think needs to be done?

What I've seen (this is not directed at you), is that 737-800s and 321s are planned for trans-Atlantic routes. There were many on APC saying that wouldn't happen when the JV block hour conversion proposal was being contested.

Ain't gonna happen. Makes no sense whatsoever, but I have no knowledge of anything going on wrt negotiations.

trustbutverify 09-21-2016 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 2207662)
Ain't gonna happen. Makes no sense whatsoever, but I have no knowledge of anything going on wrt negotiations.

I'm just repeating what I saw in a DALPA email this morning. And to clarify, that item in the email was referring to foreign carriers, not us.

Elliot 09-21-2016 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2207671)
I'm just repeating what I saw in a DALPA email this morning. And to clarify, that item in the email was referring to foreign carriers, not us.

JetBlue is researching the idea as well. Hence the projected (Intl./Dom.) growth out of BOS in the next couple years.

Can anyone say, "virtual pilot base in BOS"?

gzsg 09-21-2016 10:34 AM


Originally Posted by trustbutverify (Post 2207658)
Great point about the 100% focus thing. But you have been asking the forum to start focusing on JV, so here's a thread devoted to that.

What do you know about JV in the current negotiations and what do you think needs to be done?

What I've seen (this is not directed at you), is that 737-800s and 321s are planned for trans-Atlantic routes. There were many on APC saying that wouldn't happen when the JV block hour conversion proposal was being contested.

We need immediate penalties if/when management gets out of compliance. Harmed pilots being paid the second they are out of compliance.

No conversion to block hours.

80ktsClamp 09-21-2016 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by gzsg (Post 2207681)

No conversion to block hours.

Hey! You finally got something right!

gzsg 09-21-2016 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 2207697)
Hey! You finally got something right!

Careful 80 you might have to vote No.

gzsg 09-22-2016 08:51 AM

Hearing we are going to cave on change to block hours.

Air France A 380 vs Delta A 321.

We can never allow this to happen.

Be informed and discuss with your reps.

Don't listen to me or the jam down club.

Call your Rep and be informed.


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