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Old 09-21-2016 | 09:47 AM
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Anyone who is not 100% focused on JV scope is not paying attention.

When you look at the VEBA debacle, how can we trust this administration to negotiate JV scope that will be iron clad with IMMEDIATE PENALTIES?

The very second management is out of compliance the harmed pilots need to be paid each and every month until management is back in compliance.

IMO management will immediately fall out of compliance and we will have our pants down around our ankles again.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Anyone who is not 100% focused on JV scope is not paying attention.

When you look at the VEBA debacle, how can we trust this administration to negotiate JV scope that will be iron clad with IMMEDIATE PENALTIES?

The very second management is out of compliance the harmed pilots need to be paid each and every month until management is back in compliance.

IMO management will immediately fall out of compliance and we will have our pants down around our ankles again.
If we are 100% focused on JV scope, we cannot focus on anything else, right?

Dude seriously.

And what is it with some of you and the sexual metaphors?
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:19 AM
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If we are 100% focused on JV scope, we cannot focus on anything else, right?

Dude seriously.

And what is it with some of you and the sexual metaphors?
Great point about the 100% focus thing. But you have been asking the forum to start focusing on JV, so here's a thread devoted to that.

What do you know about JV in the current negotiations and what do you think needs to be done?

What I've seen (this is not directed at you), is that 737-800s and 321s are planned for trans-Atlantic routes. There were many on APC saying that wouldn't happen when the JV block hour conversion proposal was being contested.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by trustbutverify
Great point about the 100% focus thing. But you have been asking the forum to start focusing on JV, so here's a thread devoted to that.

What do you know about JV in the current negotiations and what do you think needs to be done?

What I've seen (this is not directed at you), is that 737-800s and 321s are planned for trans-Atlantic routes. There were many on APC saying that wouldn't happen when the JV block hour conversion proposal was being contested.
Ain't gonna happen. Makes no sense whatsoever, but I have no knowledge of anything going on wrt negotiations.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:28 AM
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Ain't gonna happen. Makes no sense whatsoever, but I have no knowledge of anything going on wrt negotiations.
I'm just repeating what I saw in a DALPA email this morning. And to clarify, that item in the email was referring to foreign carriers, not us.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by trustbutverify
I'm just repeating what I saw in a DALPA email this morning. And to clarify, that item in the email was referring to foreign carriers, not us.
JetBlue is researching the idea as well. Hence the projected (Intl./Dom.) growth out of BOS in the next couple years.

Can anyone say, "virtual pilot base in BOS"?
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by trustbutverify
Great point about the 100% focus thing. But you have been asking the forum to start focusing on JV, so here's a thread devoted to that.

What do you know about JV in the current negotiations and what do you think needs to be done?

What I've seen (this is not directed at you), is that 737-800s and 321s are planned for trans-Atlantic routes. There were many on APC saying that wouldn't happen when the JV block hour conversion proposal was being contested.
We need immediate penalties if/when management gets out of compliance. Harmed pilots being paid the second they are out of compliance.

No conversion to block hours.
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Old 09-21-2016 | 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg

No conversion to block hours.
Hey! You finally got something right!
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Old 09-21-2016 | 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
Hey! You finally got something right!
Careful 80 you might have to vote No.
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Old 09-22-2016 | 08:51 AM
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Hearing we are going to cave on change to block hours.

Air France A 380 vs Delta A 321.

We can never allow this to happen.

Be informed and discuss with your reps.

Don't listen to me or the jam down club.

Call your Rep and be informed.
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