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Old 09-22-2016 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sink r8
That's how much separates the weak, sissified yes in C2012 (62-38), from the glorious, "super majority" no of TA1 (65-35).

A lot of us talk about "the majority" on APC and elsewhere. How do we know? We only know about the LAST vote. 3% isn't a license to speak for the group, now and forever. It's not a reflection of the present, but the past.

I think this group is fully qualified to speak for itself.

You're starting to sound desperate. Every day you start a new thread about getting a chance to vote. Even if the MEC read your first thread a few days ago, and hurried up at started to put managements last best offer together for sinkr8 to vote on, you wouldn't be voting for at least a few weeks. First, we'd have the road show sales job (Management historically makes the union sign an agreement to support the TA to the membership). Then we'd have 60 days to vote. Even if it all was agreed to and started the day you started your "thread a day program", we are a few months away from your promised land, and you aren't changing anything with your effort.

Unless you're a P2P guy again and prepping us for what's on its way.

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Old 09-22-2016 | 06:14 PM
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Originally Posted by 300SMK
Managements goal is 51%. Anything in excess of that is a financial waste to them. Letting them float small incremental changes as an experiment to better understand the demographics and tweak the offer towards 51% will net a much lower result than sitting out for a 65% in favor vote.
I know what you're saying, (i.e. pickin' up what you're puttin' down) but respectfully disagree with your premise.

There is no leadership group in their right mind that would want half the pilot workforce disgruntled with the deal they got. Sorry. I know this Managenent seems to be anti-pilot/organized labor at times, but I have a hard time believing they'd brag to Wall Street of the deal they negotiated passing muster by 50.0001%.

JMHO.
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Old 09-22-2016 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Elliot
I know what you're saying, (i.e. pickin' up what you're puttin' down) but respectfully disagree with your premise.

There is no leadership group in their right mind that would want half the pilot workforce disgruntled with the deal they got. Sorry. I know this Managenent seems to be anti-pilot/organized labor at times, but I have a hard time believing they'd brag to Wall Street of the deal they negotiated passing muster by 50.0001%.

JMHO.
The package they've offered so far is 80/20 NO. They don't want a deal yet. They want to slow play this negotiations.

There ain't no changin' dat.
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