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#2
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Very gracious of you to admit being wrong but we still have a way to go. I really don't see any trouble passing this but lets wait for all the details.
OBTW- Another big plus for us is PS. A lot of guys were saying how much less we would get from PS since the non-contracts received a raise and we didn't. Well with full retro and no PS trade we will also be way ahead with regards to PS too.
Scoop
OBTW- Another big plus for us is PS. A lot of guys were saying how much less we would get from PS since the non-contracts received a raise and we didn't. Well with full retro and no PS trade we will also be way ahead with regards to PS too.
Scoop
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Very gracious of you to admit being wrong but we still have a way to go. I really don't see any trouble passing this but lets wait for all the details.
OBTW- Another big plus for us is PS. A lot of guys were saying how much less we would get from PS since the non-contracts received a raise and we didn't. Well with full retro and no PS trade we will also be way ahead with regards to PS too.
Scoop
OBTW- Another big plus for us is PS. A lot of guys were saying how much less we would get from PS since the non-contracts received a raise and we didn't. Well with full retro and no PS trade we will also be way ahead with regards to PS too.
Scoop
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I'll split it with you. I'll bring the Tabasco. I had serious doubts the MEC could get together behind a solid product.
On the other hand, don't sell yourself short. You helped the discussion along. I don't know who you were talking to, but as of a couple of weeks ago, my info is that they weren't on a path to getting it done. Of course, my info was that they were locked on RJ's vs. PS, so I have some forensic rumor/leak work to do. It would be fascinating to see what went on in the last few weeks and days. I think the pilots deserve the credit for giving direction and a lot of additional input to the MEC, and the MEC deserves credit for coming together for the good of the pilots. Good for them.
I'm very happy to see we're probably getting a vote, all of us from the NeverEnufs, to the most ardent Surrender Monkey.
So maybe I'll bring a couple of beers too, and drink to democracy.
On the other hand, don't sell yourself short. You helped the discussion along. I don't know who you were talking to, but as of a couple of weeks ago, my info is that they weren't on a path to getting it done. Of course, my info was that they were locked on RJ's vs. PS, so I have some forensic rumor/leak work to do. It would be fascinating to see what went on in the last few weeks and days. I think the pilots deserve the credit for giving direction and a lot of additional input to the MEC, and the MEC deserves credit for coming together for the good of the pilots. Good for them.
I'm very happy to see we're probably getting a vote, all of us from the NeverEnufs, to the most ardent Surrender Monkey.
So maybe I'll bring a couple of beers too, and drink to democracy.
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Very gracious of you to admit being wrong but we still have a way to go. I really don't see any trouble passing this but lets wait for all the details.
OBTW- Another big plus for us is PS. A lot of guys were saying how much less we would get from PS since the non-contracts received a raise and we didn't. Well with full retro and no PS trade we will also be way ahead with regards to PS too.
Scoop
OBTW- Another big plus for us is PS. A lot of guys were saying how much less we would get from PS since the non-contracts received a raise and we didn't. Well with full retro and no PS trade we will also be way ahead with regards to PS too.
Scoop
Are you kidding me??? How is keeping something we ALREADY have a 'big plus' for Delta pilots...talk about low expectations. Its a perfect example of the Negotiating Committee amateurs swallowing the company Red Herring bait... hook,line and sinker! We clearly need a new NC after this turd goes down in flames. It may be time for an in-house union? I am paying dues for these idiots to add concessions. We have sacrificed our pensions, QOL and contributed more than any other group to help achieve the greatest financial success in DAL history... what a joke. NO VOTE!!!
#8
Are you kidding me??? How is keeping something we ALREADY have a 'big plus' for Delta pilots...talk about low expectations. Its a perfect example of the Negotiating Committee amateurs swallowing the company Red Herring bait... hook,line and sinker! We clearly need a new NC after this turd goes down in flames. It may be time for an in-house union? I am paying dues for these idiots to add concessions. We have sacrificed our pensions, QOL and contributed more than any other group to help achieve the greatest financial success in DAL history... what a joke. NO VOTE!!!
#9
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Are you kidding me??? How is keeping something we ALREADY have a 'big plus' for Delta pilots...talk about low expectations. Its a perfect example of the Negotiating Committee amateurs swallowing the company Red Herring bait... hook,line and sinker! We clearly need a new NC after this turd goes down in flames. It may be time for an in-house union? I am paying dues for these idiots to add concessions. We have sacrificed our pensions, QOL and contributed more than any other group to help achieve the greatest financial success in DAL history... what a joke. NO VOTE!!!
No, not kidding and I really don't know what you are talking about.
I am simply referencing the fact that many of the previous "Yes" voters were wrong when they said our PS would go down because we rejected the last TA - it will in fact go up, and has nothing to do with what we "already have."
As far as hook, line, and sinker we have not seen the whole package yet but it looks pretty good to me.
OBTW - even on Chit Chat where they can turn a wet dream into a nightmare it looks like an easy pass.
On the Chit Chat poll it is only failing by about 60-40%. Run that through the Chit Chat reality converter and you get about a 70-30% Pass. Remember the last TA was running 97-3% against and yet still received 35% Yes votes.
And now since you asked about kidding - here is some: Look at the bright side - if this does pass you will be able to miserable for at least 3 more years.
Scoop
Last edited by Scoop; 10-01-2016 at 09:48 AM.
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