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Old 10-08-2016 | 05:16 AM
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Why was it deleted? Gotta vote for it so you know what's in it?

Fortunately, got my hands on a copy. If people truly care about scope more than industry standard pay, this will go down. Section 1 is setup to further reduce our wide body flying. Good thing our friends in Australia, China, Mexico, Korea, Brazil, Italy, India, France, United Kingdom and Amsterdam are willing to do that flying for us

Apologies to any of our JV friends I may have missed.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 05:45 AM
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Maybe it wasn't the actual TA? I don't know....
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Old 10-08-2016 | 05:48 AM
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The real one is out there.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 05:53 AM
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IF that leaked version turns out to be true, they have done an amazing job of laying out the pay rates to get people already saying yes and now they wont read it to see all these scope cutouts and 3b4 cutouts.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 06:57 AM
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It was deleted shortly after it was posted. I'm guessing it was an unauthorized leak? The document wasn't finalized? I downloaded the copy, but after about 20 of 505 pages my eyes started glazing over and I decided that I'll wait for the summaries from smarter brains than mine.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 07:32 AM
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Looks like the Council 1 chairman leaked it. This is ridiculous. He didn't even bother to clean up the trail of crumbs that lead right back to his desk.

"No, I haven't seen your cookies. I hate cookies. Nom nom."

Who benefits from violating the policy manual in this manner? The objective should be for every pilot to make a rational decision, but Jon Lewis is opposed to that. Shameful and dishonorable behavior.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by bentwookie
It was deleted shortly after it was posted. I'm guessing it was an unauthorized leak? The document wasn't finalized? I downloaded the copy, but after about 20 of 505 pages my eyes started glazing over and I decided that I'll wait for the summaries from smarter brains than mine.

Yes - We deleted it. It appears that the anonymity feature of APC was used to leak a document get it out. Someone created an APC account and posted a link to the leaked TA with their first post. User since banned.

It appeared on Chit Chat a few minutes later. If someone wants to get the info out on Chit Chat - let them post it there under there own name.

Please do not post it until it is officially released, which should be about a week.

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Old 10-08-2016 | 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by rube
Looks like the Council 1 chairman leaked it. This is ridiculous. He didn't even bother to clean up the trail of crumbs that lead right back to his desk.

"No, I haven't seen your cookies. I hate cookies. Nom nom."

Who benefits from violating the policy manual in this manner? The objective should be for every pilot to make a rational decision, but Jon Lewis is opposed to that. Shameful and dishonorable behavior.
Not sure where it came from, but are you opposed to the pilots seeing the TA? I think we should all be able to see it absent a 1.5M propaganda campaign.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Not sure where it came from, but are you opposed to the pilots seeing the TA? I think we should all be able to see it absent a 1.5M propaganda campaign.
of course he is. he wants to see the TA pass no matter what concessions are in.
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Old 10-08-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Schwanker
Not sure where it came from, but are you opposed to the pilots seeing the TA? I think we should all be able to see it absent a 1.5M propaganda campaign.
Every pilot will see the TA long before they have to vote on it.
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