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Give it a chance before fear mongering. It might be a great thing for a lot of commuters at very little impact to the in-base folks.

I think you will find the company limits the use. The only base I see them benefitting from it would be MCO.

But MCO isn't a base. So the flying comes from other bases. In the case of MCO, NYC and ATL will be the most poached sources of this flying. This will reduce pilots required, period. I also heard LAS and RDU, another 2 cheap hotel markets. In any case, the real point is their usage is essentially unlimited. Thankfully we have a pull down clause, which I hope we exercise ASAP. If we didn't have that, this would be a single reason NO vote.

Management well definitely slow play the change to preserve it for the future.

It seems like such a bad plan to vote in a TA that has multiple pieces that we hope to get taken out the second it is signed in.

I agree that VB will be the second biggest stagnation-causer in this TA behind WB scope. Though, if implemented properly, they may be able to have VB cost us even more jobs than the JV scope. I also agree that the 1-year test period will be a tiny version of the real plan. All of the smarter-than-us folks on here will be screaming I-told-you-so in a year as the TDY becomes law. Then the real implementation will begin, and we will see the flying ripped from our main bases (ATL, MSP, NYC most likely affected the most).

We never thought they would do that.

We actually have to renew it after the one year test period or it goes away. We don't even have to pull it down. In the end it will turn out to be much ado about nothing.

Stagnation.





Laugh my arse off. It might cause someone until month 5 to get that upgrade.

Seriously - you had better think of a different argument. Do you really think "stagnation" is a valid argument now? And wait until the 350 AE comes out.

There are some pretty valid arguments against this deal but stagnation is certainly not one of them.

Scoop

I think next year will be a good year AE wise but perhaps not quite the expectations some have. The slowdown in 350 deliveries with 4 removed from 2018 combined with a reduction in growth next year of 2% will reduce the need for pilots by about 380 jobs. The great unknown is the number of retirements.

This from the guy who thought Tennessee had a chance against Alabama.

Who knows...a broken clock is right twice a day...