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Originally Posted by Shakinthefat
(Post 2226610)
MD88/90 pays less than 319/20....explain that too while you are at it.
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Originally Posted by Dodo
(Post 2225416)
This looks great!
Now can you post a vacation comparison? Maybe you'll get em next contract. |
Originally Posted by chuck416
(Post 2225710)
It's the same logic applied to (seemingly) all of our payscales. Throw a dart at the dart board, see where it lands. Our pay-for-equipment seriously needs adjustment, from top to bottom
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Originally Posted by Moondog
(Post 2225468)
Will someone please explain how the C-100, which holds less pax, will out pay the 717? Don't get it.
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It looks like our rates are almost the same as UAL across the board. I don't see UPS or FedEx on the charts. I guess it would make ours look too low?
I thought with all the things we are giving up, our line would at least be a significant jump above everybody else's. the other airlines barely have anything to pattern off of us with these. I looked closely because the FAQ that came in my mailbox said we were not getting industry standard pay. I guess their definition of a standard deviation is different than a mathematicians. |
Originally Posted by taylorswiftfan
(Post 2228837)
It looks like our rates are almost the same as UAL across the board. I don't see UPS or FedEx on the charts. I guess it would make ours look too low?
I thought with all the things we are giving up, our line would at least be a significant jump above everybody else's. the other airlines barely have anything to pattern off of us with these. I looked closely because the FAQ that came in my mailbox said we were not getting industry standard pay. I guess their definition of a standard deviation is different than a mathematicians. |
Originally Posted by Moondog
(Post 2225468)
Will someone please explain how the C-100, which holds less pax, will out pay the 717? Don't get it.
Thought the small C-100 held 110 pax and the big one held 130 ish??? |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2228843)
UPS and Fedex are on the charts for the planes they fly. We are above United for all planes we fly except 767-400 from what I can see. Obviously they're snap-up will change that, but that's a good thing. Wages are going up as long as profit sharing doesn't dry up.
I missed the FedEx rates. Thank you for pointing those out. I saw the planes they don't fly. Makes sense. So, we are doing the concessions for industry-standard rates, right? |
Originally Posted by Army80
(Post 2228855)
Thought the small C-100 held 110 pax and the big one held 130 ish???
The CS300 is 145/130/120. |
Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
(Post 2228843)
UPS and Fedex are on the charts for the planes they fly. We are above United for all planes we fly except 767-400 from what I can see. Obviously they're snap-up will change that, but that's a good thing. Wages are going up as long as profit sharing doesn't dry up.
777/747 = UAL+5.15% A330/76-400 = UAL - 0.67% 76-300/757-300 = UAL + 5.27% 757-200 = UAL + 9.12% A320 = UAL + 0.97% A319 = UAL + 5.25% 737-800 = UAL + 4.64% 737-700 = UAL + 9.08% MD88 = UAL + 3.37% (using UAL 73-700 rate...their lowest rate) 717 = UAL - 1.85% (using UAL 73-700 rate...their lowest rate) UAL current rates get a 2% raise on 1/1/18 as we get a 3% increase so these comps diverge over time. Of course this does NOT factor in UAL's me-too clause but I don't know of a way to reasonably account for that, i.e., even if we got bigger increases in rates UAL would move up proportionally based on that. As others have said here, UPS beats our TA rates on everything from 767 and below. Our TA rates exceed UPS on aircraft above 7ER. |
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