Kill VB
11-03-2016 | 11:31 AM
#131
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Guys are saying that, but my bet is they will fly more after the raise. "Gee look how much more I can make this month with just a couple of white slips! " They'll tell themselves they're piling up cash so they can retire early, but they'll go to 65, or whatever the new max becomes. We're pilots, man. It's what we do.
It's right up there with I'm quitting at 55.
11-04-2016 | 05:06 PM
#132
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I'm planning to able to leave at 58. The key is putting yourself in that position so you have choices. If I am able to leave at 58 I am also able to take SILs or drop the trips I don't want(maybe that's my entire month.)
11-04-2016 | 06:19 PM
#133
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I was present for this portion of the road show in NYC. The way VB works is the size of the VB is limited by BOTH the desires of the company AND the number of volunteers for that particular VB for that particular bid period. If the Company 'tricks' us for a year, then turns it into a POS program, people will not volunteer for the VBs. They will then die. Regardless of what the company wants or the MEC decides, we the pilots can effectively kill the program at any time.
11-05-2016 | 05:05 PM
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I was present for this portion of the road show in NYC. The way VB works is the size of the VB is limited by BOTH the desires of the company AND the number of volunteers for that particular VB for that particular bid period. If the Company 'tricks' us for a year, then turns it into a POS program, people will not volunteer for the VBs. They will then die. Regardless of what the company wants or the MEC decides, we the pilots can effectively kill the program at any time.
Sometimes the purpose of our CBA is to protect us from ourselves.
11-05-2016 | 05:12 PM
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Not really. The point is they will give some goodies to a few pilots in order to reduce overall pilot jobs. As long as the individual goodies continue, there will always be pilots who bid it. Remember trip parking? :roll eyes:
Sometimes the purpose of our CBA is to protect us from ourselves.
Sometimes the purpose of our CBA is to protect us from ourselves.
They are also calculating that other areas of the contract will add pilot jobs.
11-05-2016 | 05:57 PM
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I'm doing SILs and dropping trips. And when the FA's beat me to the pickup, I'll quit.
11-05-2016 | 06:27 PM
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11-05-2016 | 06:44 PM
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My point is that its a job costing negative, but in this case its one that we can unilaterally pull down. I think its a no brainer that we do so.
11-05-2016 | 07:07 PM
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If for no other reason than bargaining leverage................yes it must go.
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