Originally Posted by Tony Nelson

Any chance someone can post your new rates in the Airline Profiles section of this site?

Originally Posted by sailingfun

There is zero comparison with flight attendants and pilot VB's. I am surprised anyone knowing the differences would try and make that comparison. First the flight attendants can fly any equipment and any position. Second they are required to find a replacement if they sick out. If their number of sick calls is deemed excessive they are removed from the base. Third FAR's basically don't apply to FA's. The company has far more options to replace or even go one short in the event of a sick call then pilots.
All rotations for pilots are built by Carmine. Both the union and company ran numerous simulations using the last 12 months flying schedule giving carmine the latitude to place pilot bases anywhere she liked. The results were underwhelming. Keep in mind that small bases are inheritanly inefficient for pilots with reserve rules. Any reduction in credit has to be greater then required extra reserves.

Originally Posted by newKnow

So, you're saying you know for certain how the company is going to set up the VB's? Because, if you notice in my post, I admitted that I was just guessing.

It seems to me that the most likely place's they will put VB's are cities where there are lots of overnights/flights for a specific airplane and a lot of pilots who fly that airplane who live there. Like I said, it's just a guess.


But, since you seem to know what they are and aren't going to do, what are they going to do?

Originally Posted by sailingfun

There is no cost savings to put a VB into a city with lots of flights unless they generate credit. A city with lots of flights generally gives the company plenty of options to schedule with minimal credit. In the simulations they ran the two cities mentioned as saving some cost were MCO and SFO.
What I am really saying is like nearly every forum crises this will turn out to be almost a non issue. If it is a issue we pull it down.

Originally Posted by newKnow

Would it make more sense if they put a VB in a city where a lot of commuting pilots lived?

Originally Posted by sailingfun

I think they only care about cost. They could care less about QOL improvements for commuters. The only way it comes into play is if they are concerned there will not be enough bidders.

Originally Posted by sailingfun

I think they only care about cost. They could care less about QOL improvements for commuters. The only way it comes into play is if they are concerned there will not be enough bidders.