C44 FO Response to C44 CA Communication
02-02-2017, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Whereisalpa
Nobody is surprised that you disagree with anything not pro company. I want to know if DPA is dead or coming back to life. If Dalpa crawls back into bed with Mgmt it will be time for something else!!
So...JM gets us a great contract...for the second time...and yet in your worldview, thinking that he should have been elected for another term as MEC chair is somehow "pro company?"
Only in internet message board la-la land. If we had re-elected JM, that would have been very pro-pilot.
That said, I still disagree with the recall attempt, and voted accordingly.
02-02-2017, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
So...JM gets us a great contract...for the second time...and yet in your worldview, thinking that he should have been elected for another term as MEC chair is somehow "pro company?"
Only in internet message board la-la land. If we had re-elected JM, that would have been very pro-pilot.
That said, I still disagree with the recall attempt, and voted accordingly.
Only in internet message board la-la land. If we had re-elected JM, that would have been very pro-pilot.
That said, I still disagree with the recall attempt, and voted accordingly.
Just one of almost 14,000 opinions though.
02-02-2017, 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tunes
That being said, I think the big beef with JM is that he ran and assured the pilot group he would be a one and done...
02-02-2017, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Bradshaw24
That's what Brielmann promised when he first ran in C66. Then after winning his second term he ran for MEC Vice Chairman before even starting his second term, and now he's MEC Secretary. No one seems to take issue with that.
02-02-2017, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by GivemeVSP
Please post Brielmann's campaign letter saying he would only serve 1 term. Malone's is out there and readily accessible...
02-03-2017, 03:36 AM
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Great contract
Tell me what areas in our contract are industry leading? As a matter of fact, how about a section by section starting with Section 1. Personally I would have been happy to be top 3 in all areas. We are far from that. I'd venture to say that we're more like 4 or 5 in some of the most critical areas of our contract. We blew a once in a career bargaining environment to secure retro and industry standard rates. In fairness, we did keep the best profit sharing. Maybe we can trade that next time
Tell me what areas in our contract are industry leading? As a matter of fact, how about a section by section starting with Section 1. Personally I would have been happy to be top 3 in all areas. We are far from that. I'd venture to say that we're more like 4 or 5 in some of the most critical areas of our contract. We blew a once in a career bargaining environment to secure retro and industry standard rates. In fairness, we did keep the best profit sharing. Maybe we can trade that next time
Originally Posted by Herkflyr
So...JM gets us a great contract...for the second time...and yet in your worldview, thinking that he should have been elected for another term as MEC chair is somehow "pro company?"
Only in internet message board la-la land. If we had re-elected JM, that would have been very pro-pilot.
That said, I still disagree with the recall attempt, and voted accordingly.
Only in internet message board la-la land. If we had re-elected JM, that would have been very pro-pilot.
That said, I still disagree with the recall attempt, and voted accordingly.
02-03-2017, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by NERD
Great contract Tell me what areas in our contract are industry leading? As a matter of fact, how about a section by section starting with Section 1. Personally I would have been happy to be top 3 in all areas. We are far from that. I'd venture to say that we're more like 4 or 5 in some of the most critical areas of our contract. We blew a once in a career bargaining environment to secure retro and industry standard rates. In fairness, we did keep the best profit sharing. Maybe we can trade that next time
Tell me what areas in our contract are industry leading? As a matter of fact, how about a section by section starting with Section 1. Personally I would have been happy to be top 3 in all areas. We are far from that. I'd venture to say that we're more like 4 or 5 in some of the most critical areas of our contract. We blew a once in a career bargaining environment to secure retro and industry standard rates. In fairness, we did keep the best profit sharing. Maybe we can trade that next timeWe fell far too short on:
Vacation day
Needs to be 5:15
Training day (Delta flight attendants 4:45)
Needs to be 5:15
Minimum day
Needs to be 5:15
Defined contribution
Needs to be 18%
Medical/Dental premiums and deductibles
Premiums cut in half.
Deductibles $200 per individual and $400 per family.
02-03-2017, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by gzsg
Exactly.
We fell far too short on:
Vacation day
Needs to be 5:15
Training day (Delta flight attendants 4:45)
Needs to be 5:15
Minimum day
Needs to be 5:15
Defined contribution
Needs to be 18%
Medical/Dental premiums and deductibles
Premiums cut in half.
Deductibles $200 per individual and $400 per family.
We fell far too short on:
Vacation day
Needs to be 5:15
Training day (Delta flight attendants 4:45)
Needs to be 5:15
Minimum day
Needs to be 5:15
Defined contribution
Needs to be 18%
Medical/Dental premiums and deductibles
Premiums cut in half.
Deductibles $200 per individual and $400 per family.
I think "far too short" may be a stretch in some cases. Our PWA has plenty of good items and also plenty of bad items that we should focus on improving.
I am 100% in agreement that our medical/dental plans are in fact "far too short" - after using Tri-Care for the last decade I am amazed at how inadequate our plans are.
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