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Old 12-14-2017 | 09:13 AM
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How far after the award is the training date? Your example makes it seem like nearly 3 months after they complete initial training and hit the line they will come back for upgrade training
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Old 12-14-2017 | 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by aviatorpr
How far after the award is the training date? Your example makes it seem like nearly 3 months after they complete initial training and hit the line they will come back for upgrade training
There is no "set in stone" on this. One new hire got a 200 CP award the last week of Nov 2017 with a mid Feb 2018 upgrade class date. More senior folks on the same award start upgrade in Jan 2018.

Training is a bit backed up so come prepared to work as and get paid as an FO for a bit. It could be weeks or it could be months. It could be years if you chase particular equipment or domicile.

I'm just trying to set realistic expectations.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 10:07 AM
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Gotcha, thanks for the clarification!

Also something for newcomers to consider is that while the 900 hasn’t enjoyed the company hour waivers as much as the 200 has, several people have bid 200 CA, gotten it, then turned around and upgraded to the 900 with hardly any company time. (Due to seat lock removals)

Originally Posted by web500sjc
The 217 company time on the last award is based off a pilot getting 75 hours a month from the moment the award is final til the midpoint of all the upgrade class start dates in that award.... the mid point of the classes is 2.89 months from the date the Award went final... 75 hours a month over 2.89 months makes 217 hours.


the 217 hours in 17-05 basically means 0 company time at the point where the award was final.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by E6BAV8R
You would still need 1000 hours with the company, unless they decide to lower it for you.
Why?
Shadre Reevis just said pilots were upgraded with 0 hours with the company.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Camel Dancer
Why?
Shadre Reevis just said pilots were upgraded with 0 hours with the company.
Normally, If there are a multitude of qualified people, the company goes in seniority order of those that have 2500TT and 1000 company time. Right now, since there are not a multitude of qualified people bidding for the 200CA, the company can reduce the total time and company time requirements to prevent the hiring of a street captain.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by web500sjc
Normally, If there are a multitude of qualified people, the company goes in seniority order of those that have 2500TT and 1000 company time. Right now, since there are not a multitude of qualified people bidding for the 200CA, the company can reduce the total time and company time requirements to prevent the hiring of a street captain.
Don't make this complicated. Sounds like you are getting the verbiage confused with an unrelated seat-lock clause.

Camel, what E6BAV8R said is the same thing as what I told you earlier, he just worded it poorly. I'm not sure why he decided to repeat what I already told you in the first place. The company has and will continue to lower their internal requirements down to basically the legal minimum, in order to fill the captain vacancies. There are people with 0 hours at this company awarded captain after just a few days on property. I don't know how to make it any simpler.
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Old 12-14-2017 | 03:22 PM
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Ok I thought that's what everyone was saying but wasn't sure if he was speaking of some other clause. Much Appreciated
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Old 12-15-2017 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotMechanic
135 Jet PIC, 10 passenger seats or more. Or Fractional share, it spells it out in the FARs.
It's 135 jet pic OR 10 seats or more OR multi engine commuter.
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Old 12-15-2017 | 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mojo6911
It's 135 jet pic OR 10 seats or more OR multi engine commuter.
That's the way I interpret it as well.
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