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Old 03-20-2018, 01:59 PM
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I recently got the CJO a few weeks back. Being told the wait could be as long as FALL for a class date. Ready to go NOW, have other offers (Republic), but really want to hold out for the BEST. Thoughts on whether I should wait up to 6 months or start class now?
I can say without a doubt to GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. If your goal is to work at a legacy carrier one day, you'd be wise to take a position with Envoy, Piedmont, or PSA (currently Piedmont has the quickest flow to American).

At any of those three, you will have a much better shot at a Delta interview and job. And if that falls through, you still have United. And if that falls through, the end game default is a Captain position flying at American making $500k. My friend, Endeavor Air cannot promise you that. Don't let any recruiter tell you otherwise. You never want to sit in a pool waiting for a class date at a regional airline in this pilot shortage climate. Endeavor is dealing with major issues now that the poor work rules are becoming a reality in NYC. The moral is deepening because the pathway to Delta is so uncertain for most of our pilots (ie ...most don't trust Delta).
So, in short, move on before too much time passes...
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Old 03-20-2018, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver View Post
I can say without a doubt to GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. If your goal is to work at a legacy carrier one day, you'd be wise to take a position with Envoy, Piedmont, or PSA (currently Piedmont has the quickest flow to American).

At any of those three, you will have a much better shot at a Delta interview and job. And if that falls through, you still have United. And if that falls through, the end game default is a Captain position flying at American making $500k. My friend, Endeavor Air cannot promise you that. Don't let any recruiter tell you otherwise. You never want to sit in a pool waiting for a class date at a regional airline in this pilot shortage climate. Endeavor is dealing with major issues now that the poor work rules are becoming a reality in NYC. The moral is deepening because the pathway to Delta is so uncertain for most of our pilots (ie ...most don't trust Delta).
So, in short, move on before too much time passes...
It really isn't this bad........But to his point, don't wait around. You're in demand.

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Old 03-20-2018, 03:47 PM
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Waiting is seniority is money lost. Go to PDT, they will pay you to stay at home while you wait for EDV to call you.

A bird in the hand is always better than three in the bush.
What this guy said. Might as well get paid if EDV is what you really want. Plus I can offer Crashpad in phl if you decide to stay at pdt.
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Old 03-20-2018, 08:06 PM
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Thanks for the replies, all, lots of food for thought.
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Old 03-20-2018, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by saab340driver View Post
I can say without a doubt to GO SOMEWHERE ELSE. If your goal is to work at a legacy carrier one day, you'd be wise to take a position with Envoy, Piedmont, or PSA (currently Piedmont has the quickest flow to American).

At any of those three, you will have a much better shot at a Delta interview and job. And if that falls through, you still have United. And if that falls through, the end game default is a Captain position flying at American making $500k. My friend, Endeavor Air cannot promise you that. Don't let any recruiter tell you otherwise. You never want to sit in a pool waiting for a class date at a regional airline in this pilot shortage climate. Endeavor is dealing with major issues now that the poor work rules are becoming a reality in NYC. The moral is deepening because the pathway to Delta is so uncertain for most of our pilots (ie ...most don't trust Delta).
So, in short, move on before too much time passes...



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Old 03-21-2018, 04:37 AM
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Half a million a year at AA?
Must run a side business where they make $400,000.
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Originally Posted by Paid2fly View Post
Half a million a year at AA?
If you get on at any airline one year earlier, the increase in compensation is that extra year of senior captains pay 20-30 years down the road. $500K maybe.
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:34 AM
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I am in the same situation, either wait for months on EDV or head off to RAH. Leaning more towards RAH because waiting that long and then possibly waiting more or something else happening is not worth the seniority you gain elsewhere is the message I am getting. The only caveat is with EDV I wouldn't have to commute but RAH I would. I am near DTW
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I am in the same situation, either wait for months on EDV or head off to RAH. Leaning more towards RAH because waiting that long and then possibly waiting more or something else happening is not worth the seniority you gain elsewhere is the message I am getting. The only caveat is with EDV I wouldn't have to commute but RAH I would. I am near DTW
Dtw isn't super easy to hold, and holding a line there isn't as easy as other bases. You would likely commute here for a while anyway. And when you upgrade, you would most likely upgrade in ATL or NYC. While new hires can get dtw now from what I've been told, that is likely to change as the flying there smooths out.

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Dtw isn't super easy to hold, and holding a line there isn't as easy as other bases. You would likely commute here for a while anyway. And when you upgrade, you would most likely upgrade in ATL or NYC. While new hires can get dtw now from what I've been told, that is likely to change as the flying there smooths out.

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I know things are out of wack right now with the 200 fleet shrinking, but On the fo side, dtw is currently the most junior 900 base as measured by most junior Lineholder. Yes, more junior than nyc. On the 200s, it is slightly less junior than ATL. Captain is also easily obtainable in DTW within 2 years. With attrition to Delta being strong and the C series entering N.Y. in the future, I wouldn’t discount the possibility of banking on DTW. Now whether it’s worth waiting 6 plus months for...
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