flydiamond

Yes, lots. I see a 16 and 17 hour overnight in CLE as part of open time right now.

In my opinion, Endeavor should be #1 for anyone living in Cleveland as there are 6 UA flights to LGA, 6 Delta flights to LGA and 4 to JFK (all Endeavor), 4 American flights to LGA and 3 to JFK. That’s a total of 23 a day, 10 on our metal and all 900. Yes, express jet has a base there but it’s probably senior as it’s been a shrinking “hub” for United.

nkweb

Great! Would it be better to drive to DTW which is just over 2 hours from CLE or fly to New York? I don't know much about your DTW base.

flydiamond

The problem with Detroit is you live further than the reserve call out and there are far fewer flights to Detroit than NYC and it is more senior than NYC. I would suggest NYC until you’re senior enough to hold a comparable line with similar days off in DTW, then switch to DTW at which point you can use your car as your backup to a single flight to base or just drive (since it’s only 4 round trips a month generally).

If nyc reserve is looking like it will be long when you start DTW might be a better place to sit it as well. Crash pads are cheaper and nicer, you can bring your car up, etc.

jetlag q

Thanks, how realistic is it to rely on a bus to NYC. Is this a method pilots rely on.

jetlag q

Lol. Sorry about the E9/9E mix up I’m prior enlisted navy.

jetlag q

I would definitely say the tone in this regional chat under my thread is Totally different from the same thread I created on the PSA side!
Kind of a major sign.

Has there been an announcement on the GROWTH? I interviewed at Oshkosh and the HR REP SPOKE OF GROWTH?!?!

prex8390

I’ve never heard of anyone doing that. Why pay to get to work when you have flight benfits with a commuter policy

ninerdriver

There are two: they almost always go, and they tend to have a late night/overnight option.

I haven't heard of it in NYC, but it's common in Boston.

chrisreedrules

I was waiting for it...

My personal opinion: Go to 9E. PSA was a great deal for those hired 2014-2015. New hires in 2018 and 2019 aren’t going to experience the same career at PSA.

At PSA you will be senior-manned (read: forced) into an upgrade as soon as your eligible and possibly displaced out of base to sit reserve as a junior CA for what will most likely end up being at least 2 years. Your earned seniority as an FO means nothing except for the few short months you get to enjoy the quality of life as a “senior” FO in base.

At PSA you will be at the back end of a pilot group that is almost 1900 large at the moment. While this isn’t a bad thing in and of itself, you have to consider the fact that American Airlines Group (our overlords) and our management place a lot of value on the flow. So much value that they think it offsets an over $20,000 /year difference in what our peers at 9E and Republic are earning compared to us. And the flow language at PSA is simply not as good as at Envoy or Piedmont. We flow 10 /month from what will be an almost 2000 pilot company by the end of 2018. That is 0.5%... It will likely go up, but just let that paltry flow percentage sink in for a second. Again, for those hired in 2014 and 2015 not a bad deal. For those looking to come now, the flow shouldn't even be a factor other than the monthly seniority-list movement it generates.

There are good things about PSA too. I just think a new hire in today’s market has a ton of great options available to them. I can genuinely only recommend PSA if your current situation falls within a somewhat narrow category. Hopefully that changes in the future, but I don’t think we will ever see financial compensation to the tune of what 9E and Republic are making. AAG puts a lot of value on the flow. Which is both deserved and at the same time perhaps foolish. But we shall see what the future holds.

theUpsideDown

Currently they're saying big announcement any day now, somewhere between now and september bleh-blah-de-blah. So... You'll make good money here and for now it's good here. Theres no crystal ball otherwise most of us old timers would be md88 captains after flowing from compass.

Its a good time to get in the industry, dont agonize. If you feel like youre worth more come here. If youre feeling like its important to move through the seats as quickly as possible and you're willing to trade in, do that. You're gonna feel dumb if in less than a year we announce another 20 aircraft, and there's no cure for that, because there is no crystal ball.