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Old 11-19-2019, 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by fussydutchman View Post
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To those who didn't end up buying the M&H Trench Coat or Leather Jacket during indoc...

How strict is the enforcement of winter wear say when an FO is outside doing a walk-around?

Would it really be frowned upon wearing a generic all black coat or jacket?

What are the folks on the line doing, or do you have better suggestions for company approved outerwear?
If you want to be on the safe side just get a generic black sweater that looks nice to wear under your regular blazer. That is approved and can help you stay warm in the flight deck as well if you have a CA who prefers if hell actually froze over.
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Old 11-19-2019, 05:33 AM
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Just wear the blazer or a North Face/Columbia type jacket and go on with life..
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Old 11-19-2019, 09:26 AM
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Ya know, for the first 9 years or so I wore the overcoat with a northface type jacket underneath. When it got really cold I wore some long-john bottoms too. I never wore the jacket alone in the terminal, it was either off or under the overcoat. Once I could afford the leather, I got it and never looked back. I have never even once worn the blazer to work.

In all honesty, as long as your not walking the concourse in something different, your likely fine. Even if you are snagged, all it will be the first few times is a gentile chat, even on probation.

As far as sweaters and leather; the company did make a push to remove them a while back, FWIW I don't think it was TW's idea. The Union came back and said, its in the contact, its negotiable, the cost is flow. So, we don't have to wear a hat, I can wear my leather or a sweater, and I can go to Delta when I pass the interview.

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Old 11-19-2019, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by invadertim View Post
Ya know, for the first 9 years or so I wore the overcoat with a northface type jacket underneath. When it got really cold I wore some long-john bottoms too. I never wore the jacket alone in the terminal, it was either off or under the overcoat. Once I could afford the leather, I got it and never looked back. I have never even once worn the blazer to work.

In all honesty, as long as your not walking the concourse in something different, your likely fine. Even if you are snagged, all it will be the first few times is a gentile chat, even on probation.

As far as sweaters and leather; the company did make a push to remove them a while back, FWIW I don't think it was TW's idea. The Union came back and said, its in the contact, its negotiable, the cost is flow. So, we don't have to wear a hat, I can wear my leather or a sweater, and I can go to Delta when I pass the interview.

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It'll be a gentle chat unless you run into PN in LGA
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:30 AM
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It'll be a gentle chat unless you run into PN in LGA
Why? Is PN in LGA looking for a letter in his HR file?
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Why? Is PN in LGA looking for a letter in his HR file?
Letters in files have happened from PN for minor uniform infractions.
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Old 11-19-2019, 10:44 AM
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Letters in files have happened from PN for minor uniform infractions.
PN is a joke of a chief pilot. She’s wrecked multiple airplanes and has ruined pilots careers due to “sexual harassment”. Remain weary of her, she’s not your friend.
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Letters in files have happened from PN for minor uniform infractions.
Yet another reason to stay away from LGA
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Old 11-19-2019, 11:21 AM
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PN is a joke of a chief pilot. She’s wrecked multiple airplanes and has ruined pilots careers due to “sexual harassment”. Remain weary of her, she’s not your friend.
How long has PN actually flown the line as a 9E pilot? My understanding is she went into management as fast as she could. I have my doubts she even had 1000 hours here before she upgraded (after she was already hired as a chief pilot)
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How long has PN actually flown the line as a 9E pilot? My understanding is she went into management as fast as she could. I have my doubts she even had 1000 hours here before she upgraded (after she was already hired as a chief pilot)
Doubt it. I was called into her office for a “chat” about carrying a backpack. That chat was actually a section 19 meeting which she did not disclose to avoid union representation. Long story short TW told her to stand down. She’s a snake. Don’t even take a phone call without the union.
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