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Noseeums 06-15-2013 08:51 AM
Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1428777)
Who would be dumb enough to go to 9E with 200s going away and the near rock bottom payscale?
Our union leadership believes regionals will need a "clear path to a major" in the future. All they'll have to do is offer the SSP to newhires. So long as this perceived shortcut to a major is offered they'll have no issues hiring or keeping the payrates at rock bottom.

Al Czervik 06-15-2013 10:51 AM
Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1428777)
Who would be dumb enough to go to 9E with 200s going away and the near rock bottom payscale?
Did you work at PCL?

Slats 06-15-2013 11:11 AM
Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1428855)
Did you work at PCL?
I worked at Pinnacolaba. I left well before you all voted that ridiculous contract in. I make more at my current carrier on 2nd year pay compared to FO top out at Endeavor Air now.
Air Wis
SkyWest
ExpressJet
Compass
Horizon

Are all hiring. Why would a newbie choose Endeavor Air when these other carriers pay higher and are more stable? Isn't there a ticking clock on 200's being parked?

Present: 181 airframes
Jan 1, 2014: 165 airframes
June 1, 2014: 154 airframes

SlowATRDriver 06-15-2013 12:31 PM
Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1428855)
Did you work at PCL?
He worked for Colgan making $16 an hour flying the Q400.

ShyGuy 06-15-2013 12:33 PM
Originally Posted by Noseeums (Post 1428799)
Our union leadership believes regionals will need a "clear path to a major" in the future. All they'll have to do is offer the SSP to newhires. So long as this perceived shortcut to a major is offered they'll have no issues hiring or keeping the payrates at rock bottom.
Your union also sold you out in SLI negotiations and fell for Delta's bluff. I wouldn't exactly believe the Kool Aid they are spilling to you about SSPs to newhires.


I worked at Pinnacolaba. I left well before you all voted that ridiculous contract in. I make more at my current carrier on 2nd year pay compared to FO top out at Endeavor Air now.
Air Wis
SkyWest
ExpressJet
Compass
Horizon

Are all hiring. Why would a newbie choose Endeavor Air when these other carriers pay higher and are more stable? Isn't there a ticking clock on 200's being parked?

Present: 181 airframes
Jan 1, 2014: 165 airframes
June 1, 2014: 154 airframes
Don't bother, Slats. Your words will fall on deaf ears and in the end you will be made out to be the bad guy.

xjcrew1 06-15-2013 12:51 PM
Originally Posted by Bucking Bar (Post 1428782)
Don't know, but we know 85% voted yes for that. I think the Pinnacle contract with Delta passed by a wider margin than Delta's own contract ... go figure.
Delta pilots weren't looking at the potential of being jobless. Apples to Oranges. We made our decisions based on what was best for our pilot group. I won't ever apologize for voting yes.

Saabs 06-15-2013 01:33 PM
Originally Posted by SlowATRDriver (Post 1428892)
He worked for Colgan making $16 an hour flying the Q400.
When did CJC pay $16 an hour to fly a Q???

fatsopilot 06-15-2013 04:42 PM
Originally Posted by Slats (Post 1428863)
I worked at Pinnacolaba. I left well before you all voted that ridiculous contract in. I make more at my current carrier on 2nd year pay compared to FO top out at Endeavor Air now.
Air Wis
SkyWest
ExpressJet
Compass
Horizon

Are all hiring. Why would a newbie choose Endeavor Air when these other carriers pay higher and are more stable? Isn't there a ticking clock on 200's being parked?

Present: 181 airframes
Jan 1, 2014: 165 airframes
June 1, 2014: 154 airframes
I'm pretty sure that Skywest has a hefty number of 50 seaters also, no?

Al Czervik 06-15-2013 05:05 PM
Slats.. What's your heartburn? If you're happy with your decision what do you care about PCL pilots? Just don't understand guys that leave for their own reasons yet can't move on. What gives?

SlowATRDriver 06-15-2013 05:32 PM
Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 1428956)
Slats.. What's your heartburn? If you're happy with your decision what do you care about PCL pilots? Just don't understand guys that leave for their own reasons yet can't move on. What gives?
Our good old buddy slats used to go by her previous screen name, "Luv2Rotate". All she did was bash every regional. You will be surprised what she said about Colgan a month before she joined them. She was practically raped by Colgan boys, that she decided to come with a new screen name and still continues to avenge her humiliation.


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