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Old 08-23-2013, 12:57 PM
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Default 13-02 out at Endeavor Air

JFK closes as a 200 base and opens as a smaller 900 base. Looks like 24 captain downgrades to try to cover for all the FO's that have been quitting.
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From what it looks like we will still not have enough FO's to cover the FO openings. (After the downgrades)
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They need to hire, who wants to come to Pinnacle?

What's the job post going to read???
"Come spend almost 6 months at the lowest paid shrinking airline till you get furloughed."

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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
They need to hire, who wants to come to Pinnacle?

What's the job post going to read???
"Come spend almost 6 months at the lowest paid shrinking airline till you get furloughed."
I would never want to work at Pinnacle Airlines. But Endeavor Air... Hells yah!!!!
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Everyone JFK sucks...stay far away. Don't bid it! (So I can stay in my dirty little armpit of a base). :-)
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Is there an actual plan in place for us to hire or is PNCL trying to avoid it based off of the future fleet plan?
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Is there an actual plan in place for us to hire or is PNCL trying to avoid it based off of the future fleet plan?
They would have to hire at some point, Compass is taking all our pilots. Maybe Delta will shutdown Compass??? kidding....
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I just want my IAH base back.. I wish I could pull the card with XJT that I'll take the job only if I could get IAH. Don't think it works like that.
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Is there an actual plan in place for us to hire or is PNCL trying to avoid it based off of the future fleet plan?
The 5 pilots on furlough are being recalled and the 116 pilots on leave are being given the option to return. Depending on how many come back will determine how many people we need to hire.
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Originally Posted by Mesabah View Post
They would have to hire at some point, Compass is taking all our pilots. Maybe Delta will shutdown Compass??? kidding....
I would be surprised if they actually hired. The vacancy numbers indicate they might have to hire but it doesn't mention new hires. Wouldn't it say something like "58 new hires" if they planned on hiring?

The only reason Pinnacle exists at this point is to put pressure on all the other regionals, the plan is to shrink, end up like Comair and then shutdown when the contract expires. If they need to they will transfer/get rid of airplane to prevent hiring. Delta is sleazy but probably not sleazy enough to break the contract to shut the operation down before the 7 years. Even with 80 airplanes they get to use the new rates 80% of pilots agreed to in order to beat down the other carriers. Once the other carriers have been beat down they can get rid of Pinnacle and we can continue our "careers" at new carriers with a new decreased compensation package in part due to the concessions 80% of 9E pilots agreed to. So why would a new hire want to go to Pinnacle and live with the stigma of having to put Endeavor on their resume for the rest of their life? I wish we all belonged to a Union so they could prevent this type of thing, oh wait . . . .
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