They already did it to mainline pilots..using YOU to replace us. Where have you been for the last decade? Oh yeah, in the LEFT seat of an RJ flying OUR passengers to OUR cities and OUR gates. YOU undercut mainline jobs, YOU happily upgraded while mainline pilots were displaced and furloughed..where was the outrage then?? How about Comair giving the middle finger to DL furloughees who just wanted to swing gear and support their families. Lost pensions, 50% pay cuts, BK and mergers, it's already happened to mainline pilots..and we always had a myriad of RJ pilots ready to REPLACE us at a moments notice.

In return for fNWA pilots to flow BACK to the left seat of an Airlink RJ, DL is honoring the pre-merger fNWA agreement for CZ and SSP flows. How many other airlines would do that? How many fNWA pilots actually displaced into the left seat of an RJ? No mainline Capts were pay protected when they got displaced back to the right seat. Now DL offers EtD, effective only AFTER all the rest of you get a chance to sit in the left seat and get your shot at an SSP interview..and you still spit in DL's face as you whine about having to actually interview for a job at a company you evidently despise. Very well then, do us all a favor and take all that TMEL somewhere else. I'm sure there are lots of DL mainline FO's who would love to replace you in the left seat.

I've been told that it's time to turn the page on my furlough, but this whining from guys who replaced me and all this tough talk is so hypocritical it makes me sick. Next time you fly take a look in back and see how many pax have a ticket on YOUR airline, then take a look at your logbook and fill out your app to anywhere else but here.

Don't you guys have something in your contract that says the company cannot offer a benefit to one group of employees without offering it to to the pilots as well? I seem to recall something like that with teamsters.

With friends like that who needs enemies...

That's nearly a direct quote from my last "Employee Engagement Survey." BTW those signs are embarrassing. We are pretty good, but I prefer quiet competency at work.

CG ... that's a good post.

Sooooooo you are saying there are FOs at DELTA....DELTA AIRLINES that would switch jobs with a captain at ASA?

LOL.

Captain Tony didn't undercut you. Delta did. They wanted the flying for cheap. You guys sold out your scope. Delta got what they wanted. At the end of the day YOU opened pandora's box.

Unfortunately regionals are pretty much the only way to get a job where you work because for some reason we are apparently qualified to fly Delta passengers who bought tickets on delta airlines, on a jet painted in delta colors but we are not qualified to fly a DELTA jet.

How is that a good post? The regionals wouldn't exist in this capacity today if you didn't vote for it. Mainline pilots allowed executives to create this nightmare. I get it though. You voted to relax scope knowing full well what would happen, but you wanted to get what you could when times were tough. Sound familiar?? Pretty much like every regional; fighting to get what they can. Regionals would still be props today if it werent for the vote of the pilots.

Carolina,

Our senior pilots would still vote scope sales if we had not shamed them for having done so. They've enjoyed cross collateralization of their pay and they have no intention of giving a penny back. You have to balance that knowledge with the fact they don't grasp the reality of the post deregulation market and they've had 50% of their earnings and pensions stripped away from them.

And your post is mostly correct, but not exactly correct. There was no small aircraft scope prior to roughly 1995. Several of the first deals were actually scope improvements. ASA was more of a codeshare partner than an express carrier back then. Not unlike Alaska is today.

He doesn't have an SSP interview :rolleyes:

Where does this fighting in the ranks end? Show me one regional pilot group that has the power to control what happens at any mainline. I don't agree necessarily with the avenue or approach that Comair took but how could Comair pilots know ALPA's merger policy will not apply to a regional and mainline? There should never be any pilot on furlough at a mainline or regional while there is a need for pilots at any other carriers. (Or do you just want everything to apply to mainline pilots only? It mostly is anyway with the façade of equality.) I can say at Pinnacle we did take and welcomed NWA furloughees. You might take your argument to ALPA and ask why they don't have better policies for hiring furloughed pilots or read one of BB post regarding that. By the way, DAL DOES NOT honor their agreements! Mesaba had a flow agreement with NWA. Why was it not honored? Yes only a mere handful were allowed to flow. I get that DAL pilots don't like a flow but it was an agreement. You can imagine what would happen if only a handful of NWA were allowed to go to DAL. Where was ALPA or DAL pilots to ensure DAL agreements are kept? So the message was sent to DAL management that they can just choose what agreement they wish to keep and what they can ignore with a regional.

I am truly sorry for what happened to you. You are welcome to continue hating all regionals and their pilots as it plays into managements agenda who will ultimately be the true winners in the long run. If it was up to me I would have all the regional pilots tied to the mainline carrier's pilots with mainline pilots in control and nothing done behind their backs and in full agreement with. I think that would however defeat the purpose of the regionals.