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02-08-2015, 10:49 AM

#151

TeddyKGB

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Originally Posted by GVGUY

Endeavor is perfect for some one in my situation. I don't need anymore turbine pic time or anymore jet time. I simply need to check the 121 box. I know there are some other higher time guys they've recently picked up too.

9,000 TT
7,000 JET
3,000 PIC turbine
5 types

If you aren't chasing a quick upgrade and just need 121 time then 9E seems like a no brainer to me. In less than 5 years you will make a quarter of a million dollars at 9E. One other regional even comes close to that kind of FO pay right now. Good luck.

02-08-2015, 11:00 AM

#152

TeddyKGB

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Originally Posted by swamp

You obviously can't see the forest for the trees. You're making a future assumption by taking a snap shot of today's situation. As far as PSA, the quick upgrades are going to the FOs already on property, a new hire FO today will not see a quick upgrade because there will come a time when Pilots stop flocking to PSA because the math of a quick upgrade won't add up, and for quick upgrades to happen, there must be a steady stream of new hires.
$20,000/year bonus is lame? That's almost an entire first year pay at Compuss... Lame...

Looks at the source. AB is in the club of former 9E pilots who moved on and didn't have a good experience there. Now they like to hate on 9E and can't stomach anything that might be positive for 9E. A while ago someone made a great comparison about how it's similar to a guy who gets dumped by a hot chick and then spends future energy hating on that chick out of bitterness and sour grapes. Alaska, Shy & 80Kts come to mind.

02-08-2015, 12:18 PM

#153

AlaskaBound

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Originally Posted by Delta1067

I suppose the truth hurts and some people (a lot of people at 9E) are in serious denial and are sippin' the kool-aid the company is throwing them now that they flashed $$ in their faces. However, that bonus is an insult and you suckers are drooling all over it. If management wanted to fix the problem they would change the pay rates. I don't blame you though, a lot of you have been though hell and back and you're beat down. You've lost all senses and are running around like zombies.

02-08-2015, 01:31 PM

#154

ShyGuy

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Originally Posted by GVGUY

With your qualifications why settle for Endeavor when you can try jetBlue, Virgin, or Spirit? All 3 have taken Corporate pilots and guys with 0 Part 121 time.

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Originally Posted by Delta1067

If you aren't chasing a quick upgrade and just need 121 time then 9E seems like a no brainer to me. In less than 5 years you will make a quarter of a million dollars at 9E. One other regional even comes close to that kind of FO pay right now. Good luck.

You are right because at those other regionals (PSA, TSA, Compass) they won't be on FO pay for 5 years...

02-08-2015, 02:02 PM

#155

GVGUY

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

With your qualifications why settle for Endeavor when you can try jetBlue, Virgin, or Spirit? All 3 have taken Corporate pilots and guys with 0 Part 121 time.

You are right because at those other regionals (PSA, TSA, Compass) they won't be on FO pay for 5 years...

Because I'm out of work and the regionals call within 20 mintues of submitting my app. The majors take months if not years to respond if at all. However, I will try to attend a job fair soon!

02-08-2015, 02:06 PM

#156

Luv2Rotate

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Originally Posted by Delta1067

If In less than 5 years you will make a quarter of a million dollars at 9E. One other regional even comes close to that kind of FO pay right now. Good luck.

Hahahaha hahahaha, thanks for that.

02-08-2015, 03:36 PM

#157

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Since the new bonus not one pilot has left for psa. That ship has sailed. If psa can't find pilots they won't have that fast upgrade any more.

02-08-2015, 03:39 PM

#158

swamp

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Originally Posted by Luv2Rotate

Hahahaha hahahaha, thanks for that.

Uuuuuummmmm, you do realize that's only $50,000/year right?? A second year FO will make about $53,000/year, so a quarter million dollars in 5 years is pretty accurate...

02-08-2015, 03:44 PM

#159

ShyGuy

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Originally Posted by Farmlover

Since the new bonus not one pilot has left for psa. That ship has sailed. If psa can't find pilots they won't have that fast upgrade any more.

That ship has hardly sailed when their most junior CA is a 08/2014 DOH.

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Originally Posted by GVGUY

Because I'm out of work and the regionals call within 20 mintues of submitting my app. The majors take months if not years to respond if at all. However, I will try to attend a job fair soon!

Oh yikes, if you are unemployed then yes take the first opportunity that comes up. But if TSA, PSA, Compass, and Endeavor all offer at the same time, I'd take one of the first three.

02-08-2015, 04:03 PM

#160

Luv2Rotate

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Originally Posted by swamp

Uuuuuummmmm, you do realize that's only $50,000/year right?? A second year FO will make about $53,000/year, so a quarter million dollars in 5 years is pretty accurate...

All honesty Ive made 55-60 the last 3yrs as an FO(including per diem). Not hard to do. What happens after year 4? If the bonus or airline continues that long?