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VoiceOfReason 03-17-2017 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2323090)
Maybe, maybe not. Just gonna have to wait until Monday. This isn't 7th Grade English, Cant go digging into language to find deeper meaning. It's obviously a very large vacancy and they didn't want to F it up with miss awards. I'm happy they are trying to do it right the first time but it would have been more professional if they told us at noon and not after a couple hundred guys sat at their computer for half an hour hitting refresh every 5 seconds.

I'm told by a very reliable source that the team - including our association rep - was going at this pretty strong for 10+ hours today. Overwhelming response to the bid, so they needed to iron out the impact to other bases. I tell you what...I pledge my support to the network folks trying to get it right. They don't get nearly enough credit for the work they do.

Very curious to see how it all shakes out.

CharlieFoxtr0t 03-17-2017 07:10 PM

Is there anything we can do about bag parking in the JFK crew room? Every time I show up I have to move bags away from the door just to get in.... I know we have a ton of people in JFK now but it is ridiculous how people just drop there bags 3 feet from the door.


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SmitteyB 03-17-2017 07:38 PM


Originally Posted by Slaveaway (Post 2323087)
"to its size, posting of the Initial Award for Vacancy Notice 17-01 has been delayed to Monday, March 20th. Because of the new ATL domicile, this award caused many more movements than we saw in past vacancies. The Company was concerned that errors would occur if the awarding process was rushed, and therefore made the decision to delay until Monday to ensure a correct award is published the first time. The new timeline (which will allow a full withdrawal period) is as follows"

Does this insinuate most if not all captain and first officer positions in ATL were lateral moves?

I think there were MORE 900 CA to ATL 200 CA movements than the company thought.

And when that happens those 900 CA vacancies now need to be filled. And they are filled by current 200 CAs. Those leave 200 CA vacancies in NYC.

So, 1 vacancy creates 3 training events.

This is not what the company wants.

legend 03-17-2017 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by SmitteyB (Post 2323130)
I think there were MORE 900 CA to ATL 200 CA movements than the company thought.

And when that happens those 900 CA vacancies now need to be filled. And they are filled by current 200 CAs. Those leave 200 CA vacancies in NYC.

So, 1 vacancy creates 3 training events.

This is not what the company wants.

Where did you get that information? 900 to 200 is a pay cutt and 2 yr seat lock. Not saying it isn't true but are you speculating?

flyingmau5 03-17-2017 08:57 PM


Originally Posted by CharlieFoxtr0t (Post 2323105)
Is there anything we can do about bag parking in the JFK crew room? Every time I show up I have to move bags away from the door just to get in.... I know we have a ton of people in JFK now but it is ridiculous how people just drop there bags 3 feet from the door.


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Yes.

Come to LGA. Much better. :D

Mesabah 03-17-2017 10:28 PM


Originally Posted by legend (Post 2323167)
Where did you get that information? 900 to 200 is a pay cutt and 2 yr seat lock. Not saying it isn't true but are you speculating?

There are a number of 900 CAs that live, or double commute in ATL. Going to the 200, even with the pay cut, is a no brainer.

CaptYoda 03-18-2017 12:00 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2323188)
There are a number of 900 CAs that live, or double commute in ATL. Going to the 200, even with the pay cut, is a no brainer.


You would think.

prex8390 03-18-2017 04:01 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2323188)
There are a number of 900 CAs that live, or double commute in ATL. Going to the 200, even with the pay cut, is a no brainer.

I've heard first hand there is a bunch of guys who live in Atlanta that still wanna commute than give up their printers and double FMS

SmitteyB 03-18-2017 04:10 AM


Originally Posted by legend (Post 2323167)
Where did you get that information? 900 to 200 is a pay cutt and 2 yr seat lock. Not saying it isn't true but are you speculating?

It's my educated guess. I was a DRC Rep and I have helped and watched the company process an award like this. Mind you that after the computer awards primary vacancies, the rest of the award must be processed by hand. It's tedious, annoying, and extremely labor intensive.

If they are complaining that it is larger than anticipated, that means there were more movements than they had forecasted. So what they will actually do is pause and make sure they have the training capacity to support these movements before they award them.

It's all moot. I'm just thinking out loud based on past experiences.

AnotherWriter 03-18-2017 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2323225)
I've heard first hand there is a bunch of guys who live in Atlanta that still wanna commute than give up their printers and double FMS

Yup, same here. You AWAC guys might get your upgrade still - I genuinely hope you do.


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