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AnotherWriter 04-19-2017 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2346471)
I'm surprised anyone would choose to come here over an AA wholly owned. If the regional model does fall apart, AA regionals will likely get a staple. Whereas, Delta will almost certainly send us packing. Something to think about.

Just to play devils advocate, what is to say only one of the AA wholly owned partners gets a stable? And by your logic, then no one should go to OO, YX, C5... really anywhere else.

Yes we don't have a flow. However, 9E isn't a bad place to be. You run the same risk here as you do anywhere else. If this place makes sense for someone, there is no reason for them to not come here. We can all sit here and guess what could happen. What is happening is that this is a good company to be a junior regional FO at. Plain and simple.

Green Needles 04-19-2017 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by AnotherWriter (Post 2346505)
. What is happening is that this is a good company to be a junior regional FO at. Plain and simple.

This is true, but it is not good for senior people or junior captains.

Mesabah 04-19-2017 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by AnotherWriter (Post 2346505)
Just to play devils advocate, what is to say only one of the AA wholly owned partners gets a stable? And by your logic, then no one should go to OO, YX, C5... really anywhere else.

Yes we don't have a flow. However, 9E isn't a bad place to be. You run the same risk here as you do anywhere else. If this place makes sense for someone, there is no reason for them to not come here. We can all sit here and guess what could happen. What is happening is that this is a good company to be a junior regional FO at. Plain and simple.

That's actually my point, AA has shown loyalty to its subsidiaries. If you are well qualified, you have exactly the same chance at Delta there, as you do here at 9E.

KSCessnaDriver 04-19-2017 10:43 AM


Originally Posted by Mesabah (Post 2346537)
That's actually my point, AA has shown loyalty to its subsidiaries. If you are well qualified, you have exactly the same chance at Delta there, as you do here at 9E.

Loyalty to it's subsidiaries? By whipsawing them to get cheaper rates? Come on, sure they have flow, but don't pretend its anything more than it is.

Mesabah 04-19-2017 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2346552)
Loyalty to it's subsidiaries? By whipsawing them to get cheaper rates? Come on, sure they have flow, but don't pretend its anything more than it is.

Mainline is doing the same to its pilot's with joint ventures, Delta being the worst in this regard.

Two Kings 04-19-2017 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2346552)
Loyalty to it's subsidiaries? By whipsawing them to get cheaper rates? Come on, sure they have flow, but don't pretend its anything more than it is.

Exactly. A flow is just a way for AA to control the supply of pilots leaving their regionals. It benefits management more so than their pilots. In the next few years qualified pilots will be much better off in their careers actively pursuing better opportunities than waiting around for a flow.

jules11 04-19-2017 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2346552)
Loyalty to it's subsidiaries? By whipsawing them to get cheaper rates? Come on, sure they have flow, but don't pretend its anything more than it is.

Here's to that. They downright fuŠked their regionals in 2014

42jeff 04-19-2017 11:50 AM

So who's hosting the shred party?
 
May 2nd. Finally

legend 04-19-2017 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by 42jeff (Post 2346614)
May 2nd. Finally

After Midnight on May 1 Paper charts will not be Legal and therefore only EFB will be allowed. Basically it will de quality anyone who has not completed the EFB process. So pass the word !!

SmitteyB 04-19-2017 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by Two Kings (Post 2346612)
Exactly. A flow is just a way for AA to control the supply of pilots leaving their regionals. It benefits management more so than their pilots. In the next few years qualified pilots will be much better off in their careers actively pursuing better opportunities than waiting around for a flow.

The flow in AA's case I believe has less to do with attrition control and everything to do with being a ZERO COST recruiting tool.

Face it - it works for them.


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