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Avroman 04-20-2017 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Farmlover (Post 2347828)
Same thing is happening in the pilot ranks. They push you to ignore your contract, and when you don't bend over like the new guys who don't know the contract, they get bent out of shape.
Old pinnacle is showing its head more and more the shorter staffed we get.

I recently watched a (original Pinnacle) line check pilot trying to get bullied into a junior man (well into his off day which would become a 6 day) by TW... I don't think most experienced pilots here are in a mood to roll over watching that... I know I wouldn't have an issue saying no, I've done it before. Sometimes the $ has to be removed from safety.
I guess that's why I'm not Delta material ;)
PS Just say no to hats

stillcantfly 04-21-2017 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by Avroman (Post 2347877)
I recently watched a (original Pinnacle) line check pilot trying to get bullied into a junior man (well into his off day which would become a 6 day) by TW... I don't think most experienced pilots here are in a mood to roll over watching that... I know I wouldn't have an issue saying no, I've done it before. Sometimes the $ has to be removed from safety.
I guess that's why I'm not Delta material ;)
PS Just say no to hats

Lol the last comment should be a sticker we all rock on our roller bags! "Just say no to hats" the looks delta would give oh man priceless!

prex8390 04-21-2017 03:39 AM

Travel benefits question. Been with my girlfriend now for sometime, and have been living together now for over 6 monthes, would they consider that grounds to be able to add her to my travel benefits as a domestic partner?
I guess has anyone on here done this?

jethikoki 04-21-2017 04:47 AM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 2347949)
Travel benefits question. Been with my girlfriend now for sometime, and have been living together now for over 6 monthes, would they consider that grounds to be able to add her to my travel benefits as a domestic partner?
I guess has anyone on here done this?

Yes you need to justify her as a domestic partner. Shared bank accounts and what ever you can provide to show proof over time.

legend 04-21-2017 08:32 AM


Originally Posted by APMechXJ (Post 2347692)
So we operate so well we are rewarded with NYC which leads to harder logistics crap lines of flying for you guys throughout the system and gojet gets rewarded with dtw operations.... meanwhile upper management keeps saying "good work" and "think of the big picture"... there is either more going on behind the scenes than we know or we are going to be the next Comair... I am starting to feel its the latter... Morale in Tech Ops is absolute zero and has been for a long time.... something needs to happen... fast

We are no where close to a Comair and if anything it's the opposite. All 200s will eventually leave NY and go somewhere else ATL, DTW etc. probably mostly ATL. They are moving old ASA to NY where our maintenance is taking over on their 700/900s. Usually in the past a new NY base for a DL regional is to put them down. That didn't happen to us but we will see how it goes for ASA/XJT side. But as far as Endeavor goes, it's moving on business as usual and looking good. We are getting closer to negotiations and that brings out " the sky is falling " type of discussions. There is still whipsaw going on but I can't see that lasting much longer considering the current and future demand of Pilots.

Eventually Delta will do what it takes to keep this place staffed, whatever that entails.

Green Needles 04-21-2017 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by legend (Post 2348097)
Eventually Delta will do what it takes to keep this place staffed, whatever that entails.

Make us wear hats and tell the new guys how lucky they are to get to look like Delta?

All joking aside, Delta needs us too badly to shut us down right now. If the economy sours or North Korea starts a nuclear war, the highest cost ones will go away. Then again, if that happens, we'll get to see if Mesa really will survive a nuclear apocalypse:-D

gojo 04-21-2017 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by legend (Post 2348097)
We are no where close to a Comair and if anything it's the opposite. All 200s will eventually leave NY and go somewhere else ATL, DTW etc. probably mostly ATL. They are moving old ASA to NY where our maintenance is taking over on their 700/900s. Usually in the past a new NY base for a DL regional is to put them down. That didn't happen to us but we will see how it goes for ASA/XJT side. But as far as Endeavor goes, it's moving on business as usual and looking good. We are getting closer to negotiations and that brings out " the sky is falling " type of discussions. There is still whipsaw going on but I can't see that lasting much longer considering the current and future demand of Pilots.

Eventually Delta will do what it takes to keep this place staffed, whatever that entails.

Well that's the glass is nearly full post. While I'd like to believe all that, we're still dealing with Delta. Delta is the king of whipsawing, and I don't trust them. I think their treatment towards us in regards to SSP interviews, flow, and pass travel shows how they value us. Also, I'm not sure how they feel about owning a regional despite the current trend

legend 04-21-2017 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2348110)
Well that's the glass is nearly full post. While I'd like to believe all that, we're still dealing with Delta. Delta is the king of whipsawing, and I don't trust them. I think their treatment towards us in regards to SSP interviews, flow, and pass travel shows how they value us. Also, I'm not sure how they feel about owning a regional despite the current trend

I agree they don't care about us. Only demand will dictate what happens. Anything can change in a moments notice but the demand is favoring our profession. What does that equate to? Not sure, except things are a lot better than they we're 2 years ago. Unfortunately there will be winners and losers when the music finally stops. Who will it be ? Some regionals will go out of business because of all this shifting around. I don't think it will be us but I've been wrong before. Of course my wife always thinks I'm wrong. We don't have any control over these things except try to stay positive and enjoy the show.

msprj2 04-21-2017 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by Green Needles (Post 2348105)
Make us wear hats and tell the new guys how lucky they are to get to look like Delta?

All joking aside, Delta needs us too badly to shut us down right now. If the economy sours or North Korea starts a nuclear war, the highest cost ones will go away. Then again, if that happens, we'll get to see if Mesa really will survive a nuclear apocalypse:-D

If North Korea starts a war it will be with nuclear ICBMs. We will have more than that to worry about, unless they blow up in their face.

ChipChelios 04-21-2017 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by msprj2 (Post 2348178)
If North Korea starts a war it will be with nuclear ICBMs. We will have more than that to worry about, unless they blow up in their face.

Their ICBM's won't make it out of the Korean Peninsula and if one does happen to reach California, that would be cause to celebrate lol. It's getting old waiting for an earthquake to remove CA from the union.

Disclaimer: Attn snowflakes, the preceding comments were in jest and not intended to offend anyone's delicate sensibilities.


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