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TalkTurkey 08-12-2017 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Ozymandias (Post 2409349)
Any truth to the rumor that Endeavor's going to offer half longevity and shorter training to L-ASA pilots because they don't have enough pilots to staff the new aircraft?

I, for one, don't even understand what you're asking. L-ASA? They who? What new aircraft? Half longevity? What? What on gods green earth are you on about?

Unpilot 08-12-2017 11:24 AM

Let me try my hand at decoding.
L-ASA is legacy ASA pilots
Half longevity is sort of what XJ did for 9E pilots a long time ago so 20 years service would equal 10 years longevity at EDV

Shortened training needs a lot of alphabet soup types to agree to.

Don't hold your breath for that.

msprj2 08-12-2017 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by Unpilot (Post 2409372)
Let me try my hand at decoding.
L-ASA is legacy ASA pilots
Half longevity is sort of what XJ did for 9E pilots a long time ago so 20 years service would equal 10 years longevity at EDV

Shortened training needs a lot of alphabet soup types to agree to.

Don't hold your breath for that.

I believe Mesaba offered a 50%
Seniority for Express 1 pilots in
MSP when NWA made MSP Mesaba only and MEM Express 1 only.

wiggy15 08-12-2017 12:05 PM


Originally Posted by Ozymandias (Post 2409349)
Any truth to the rumor that Endeavor's going to offer half longevity and shorter training to L-ASA pilots because they don't have enough pilots to staff the new aircraft?

No, I haven't heard anything about this around C tower or anywhere else. We are hiring 60 a month and are slightly heavy on pilots as it stands. With the reduction of MSP 200, we'll have the pilots without issue.

HighFlight 08-12-2017 12:24 PM

For the past two years, we have averaged a net growth of 10-12 pilots a month with classes from 30-60. Those 200s will move from MSP to ATL so that is a net gain of zero on pilots vs. airframe. So until we actually start parking 200s, we will have to keep hiring to keep up.


Originally Posted by wiggy15 (Post 2409391)
No, I haven't heard anything about this around C tower or anywhere else. We are hiring 60 a month and are slightly heavy on pilots as it stands. With the reduction of MSP 200, we'll have the pilots without issue.


wiggy15 08-12-2017 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2409401)
For the past two years, we have averaged a net growth of 10-12 pilots a month with classes from 30-60. Those 200s will move from MSP to ATL so that is a net gain of zero on pilots vs. airframe. So until we actually start parking 200s, we will have to keep hiring to keep up.

The main page of EndeavorNet says "Draw Down of 16 200s". I just assumed it meant we are parking em. That's how I took the email too. Either way, i think we'll have the pilots to cover this, especially if they finish this contract up by end of year.

Xelectro 08-12-2017 01:05 PM

Still love the rumor from 2 months ago that ASA was merging with endeavor. My answer to that is "the airplanes are merging but everyone else is given the boot" love the rumors started by crappy companies. As someone who spent some time on the XJT continental side and was furloughed. If I was delta I wouldn't want to have anything to do with those guys. Every Probationary XJT guy has a FUPM sticker on their flight case. Needs to be fired

Rawhide16 08-12-2017 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by Xelectro (Post 2409427)
Every Probationary XJT guy has a FUPM sticker on their flight case. Needs to be fired

Pardon my ignorance...FUPM?

Xelectro 08-12-2017 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by aviator77 (Post 2409433)
Pardon my ignorance...FUPM?

F$?k you pay me from movie good fellas

TalkTurkey 08-12-2017 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by Unpilot (Post 2409372)
Let me try my hand at decoding.
L-ASA is legacy ASA pilots
Half longevity is sort of what XJ did for 9E pilots a long time ago so 20 years service would equal 10 years longevity at EDV

Shortened training needs a lot of alphabet soup types to agree to.

Don't hold your breath for that.

Oh for them applying and receiving a job here? That would be nice I suppose. But there is in now way Charlie Company has talked of this applied to merging with LASA. I thought that was what that bloke was implying. But I am a bit thick and feeble so one is asked for allowances.


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