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chrisreedrules 07-13-2018 10:14 AM

Mergers don’t make much sense when you can slowly wind down a regional (especially one that doesn’t really have that much flying to begin with) and force those pilots back to the bottom of a pay scale when you transfer their aircraft away.

aviatorpr 07-13-2018 10:23 AM


Originally Posted by theUpsideDown (Post 2633748)
Endeavor is fine. It gets a little shakey if delta sells us to TSA, but we'd still be fine.

We are the Golden Standard because we have the Delta bucks behind us. If Delta wants us to remain that Standard they shouldn't entertain letting us go. Also, with our operating costs higher than any other regional out there, TSH, Skywest Holdings, all would be insane to purchase us and think they could have good profit margins. Just my .02

FollowMe 07-13-2018 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 2634109)
We are the Golden Standard because we have the Delta bucks behind us. If Delta wants us to remain that Standard they shouldn't entertain letting us go. Also, with our operating costs higher than any other regional out there, TSH, Skywest Holdings, all would be insane to purchase us and think they could have good profit margins. Just my .02

True story.

The question coming will be at what price per barrel is absorbing inflated WO overhead worth the trade off? And at what price per barrel does running 1-2 NB to a market become more CASM sensitive than 3-5 RJs?

DreamsofBanana 07-13-2018 11:21 AM

Anybody else think we should move this to a new thread? It takes a while to load on mobile. Also the page numbering is getting off.

Bartok 07-13-2018 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by DreamsofBanana (Post 2634159)
Anybody else think we should move this to a new thread? It takes a while to load on mobile. Also the page numbering is getting off.

Page numbering gets off when they delete a lot of posts.

DreamsofBanana 07-13-2018 01:42 PM


Originally Posted by Bartok (Post 2634209)
Page numbering gets off when they delete a lot of posts.

That makes sense, thanks!

TalkTurkey 07-13-2018 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by chrisreedrules (Post 2634100)
Mergers don’t make much sense when you can slowly wind down a regional (especially one that doesn’t really have that much flying to begin with) and force those pilots back to the bottom of a pay scale when you transfer their aircraft away.

That would be a pretty poor business decision.

gojo 07-13-2018 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorpr (Post 2634109)
We are the Golden Standard because we have the Delta bucks behind us. If Delta wants us to remain that Standard they shouldn't entertain letting us go. Also, with our operating costs higher than any other regional out there, TSH, Skywest Holdings, all would be insane to purchase us and think they could have good profit margins. Just my .02

Why do people think our operating costs are higher than non wholly owned regionals? Do you know this as fact, or are you you only basing this off of our contract?

9Etransplant 07-13-2018 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by gojo (Post 2634302)
Why do people think our operating costs are higher than non wholly owned regionals? Do you know this as fact, or are you you only basing this off of our contract?

I’ve been told the TA that was just voted down by AWA was equal in value to our current contract. Yeah our hourly rates are great but our insurance benefits cost less than others.

gojo 07-13-2018 03:25 PM


Originally Posted by 9Etransplant (Post 2634307)
I’ve been told the TA that was just voted down by AWA was equal in value to our current contract. Yeah our hourly rates are great but our insurance benefits cost less than others.

Yes, but total operating costs encompass much more than pay and benefits. Delta has almost everything piggy banked off of their functions


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