As of yesterday, all 9E/XJ/9L pre-merger pilots have made the Delta list if they wanted to flow.

Anyone who is considering applying here, I hope you understand the reality of going to an airline that is openly shrinking with no plan to address staffing issues and no desire to revisit pay or other area of the contract. The hospitality suites are gone (not that we used them anyway), Delta career progression outside of flow is gone, positive space commuting will be gone in less than two months, our "industry-leading" contract is gone.

Management has given clear indication through their words and actions Delta will shrink us and is no longer committing resources to keeping us competitive. Think carefully before applying here, all the reasons to come are gone unless you really want to fly a CRJ with lots of yellow stickers in NYC for subpar pay.

Not the suites!!!!

When these are the numbers without anyone making a “lateral” move and classes are still full, delta has no reason to change what they are doing.

But how many did we hire? And given our almost last place pay at this point, what will the next few months look like for new hires. Anyone that comes here now either lives in DTW, CVG, or NYC, or they are an idiot and don’t know better. There is 0 other reason to come here. 0.

If we hired 60 and lost 60, that’s a zero gain! So filling classes this way is not enough!

Hey, at least we didn't have a net negative. That's better than we've done in several months...

Endeavor seems to be doing better than most other regional with regards to holding their size. Skywest down 1,000 pilots in a year.

I'm not challenging what you're saying, just trying to understand the end-game here: In what ways does it benefit mainline to keep an atrophied wholly-owned regional partner?

Is there some form of leverage in it over mainline pilots and/or regional partners?

Are their financial benefits (i.e. taxes, write-offs, debt, etc) to it?

Is it Ed Bastian's personal fetish to snuff out career aspirations of Endeavor employees???

It doesn't benefit them to keep us in an atrophied state. This is a transitional state. We will either turn around and build back, or go away completely.

As to leverage, having us in this condition doesn't directly give them any leverage, but giving us *anything* more while they are actively negotiating with DALPA loses them a lot of leverage in that negotiation. Everything I've heard is once the mainline contract is locked in, Delta is likely to be a lot more willing to try to solve the problems here in one way or another, but expect absolutely nothing to happen until then...