Are you sure Mesaba isn't at or over their quota for 200 CA? If they are then all the 209 upgrades should go to Pinnacle guys. Which is exactly the reason no Pinnacle guys have upgraded on the 900 on the last few bids.

It's looking like upgrade time is going to be like at Skywest (meaning it will drop quick) with the hiring and growth. Any idea on how low the upgrade time will go? Also what's reserve time looking like now? Or is it hard to tell with some of the new guys will in trainig.

Has the pulling of the CRJs out of the desert been officially announced? I haven't seen a peep about it from mama D, and they talk about that stuff way more than 1 month im advance normally.

No, it's not announced, and it probably won't be. There is no official plan for the 200's. Delta is ~20ish 76 seat jets under the limit, which allows DCI to be over the 125 limit.

In that case, all this talk is still just voodoo.

Good on you guys for having some upgrades, though!

As far as the questions on upgrade time, it can be quite misleading after times of little to no hiring. And with the bloch quotas, it's even more unclear. What happens in situations like this is when things start moving, it's just shuffling and nothing happening at first... but if it goes over a certain hump, it's like a light switch being flipped on in regards to progression.

Positive. There are only about 20 Mesaba captains left on the 200, the quota was 100. Mesaba has been below since 2013. Mesaba is just slightly below on the 900. There was at least 1 retirement and some that have moved on since the last award.

I may be wrong but if you are pay protected and can re-upgrade, you have to or you lose the pay protection. Otherwise they'll go to FO pay.


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It has been announced. It was in updates from from top guys here. It's happening

That's true, but with the retention money, FO pay (with proper budgeting) is manageable for a year waiting for a Delta class. Some guys can now afford to sit with a nice schedule and no risk of a pink slip that could cost them a Delta class rather than commute to JFK to sit reserve.

If that is the case, the vacancies would have been posted sooner and there would have been some mention of it from mainline. It's good things are not all negative there, but there is no need to live in a dream world.