Anyone know how much of a haircut Delta is giving Skywest? Are we the only ones getting the BUZ cut? :(

Everyone is parking something but Endeavor will probably park the most. Delta pays for Endeavor maintenance Skywest and Republic are payed to fly and maintain their own fleet.

Not true we do a huge amount of skywest maintenance as well as supply them for their RJ fleet supplies.

Delta doesn't charge them for this? I would find that hard to believe if Delta did not.

Oh they definitely charge for it.

Seems like most of the other regionals have announced plans for SIL some really crappy others somewhat attractive yet here at 9E only thing we are hearing is voluntary leave. I’d this because they are getting the numbers they needed volunteering for leave or the union and company just not finding common ground. Losing so much flying and parking aircraft everywhere ones gotta think the music has stopped and we are just waiting for the ship to break in two.

What are RJ fleet supplies ?

Well Delta is being kind of a hard ass because they've got a FA union drive. Instead of offering the FAs SIL (because they don't have to negotiate anything with them) they're trying to show the FAs life will be harder with a union not better. "Look at what we're doing to those pilots, that could be you soon". Delta is pretty flush with cash.

I don't know why we're expected to go without pay, go in debt to the company, and then take a furlough in a few months, when we are punching holes in the sky with less than 10% load factors. We're still doing DTW LAN with 3 people in the back. You can drive that leg in just over an hour.

I guess I don’t recall any recent posts from myself about pilot shortage although personally before this hit I did think it was here but felt I was more in the quiet side of the crowd on that subject. But at the same time if I was saying pilot shortage three weeks ago it would be understandable seeing as things were in the up and making a move to an Airbus for even FOs wasn’t an extremely hard thing to do. But not the first time riding the wave just was expecting a faster crash.

On $1.55/gallon gas, no less!!!

Low oil prices won’t even come close to offsetting the massive revenue loss the airlines are experiencing.

History is never irrelevant. This thing is very much like the misnamed 1918 Spanish Flu. There are lessons to be learned from that tragedy. Airlines did not even exist then, but railroads did.

History never completely informs current situations, or the future, but like all forms of information, it should not be dismissed.

We can always learn from history. The CDC director is saying this virus may slow down over the summer but fall/winter months it will be back for another wave. If there is no vaccine by then, he said to expect more social distancing / lock down orders. I get it, but I have no idea how the entire world's economy is supposed to function if businesses are shutting down after just a few weeks of this.

i don’t see this thing being anything like the Spanish flu. Not even close.

All Endeavor NYC flights cancelled until April 3.

Currently expected to resume April 4 according to management.

I read something about OO leasing 40 engines to delta for the CRJ

what will 4 days accomplish? They need a quick reset. Scheduling slammed

Scheduling will be slammed until further notice the way things are going...

As far as I’m concerned this isn’t unpaid leave, it’s paid leave. As in WE are paying to leave. We’re going to end up paying not to work due to the health care premiums they’re going to slap us with in lump sum as soon as we come back. Um, no?

Look, I think everyone needs to take a hard look at how they can chip in right now. This is an unmitigated disaster. All this union vs. company rhetoric needs to go out the window and we all need to push in the same direction. But paying to not work is absurd. ESPECIALLY when they’re making crews sit in NYC April 1-4 without being released. F that. Pay me 50hrs/month, heck pay me rent money and I’ll take the time off. But if mgmt thinks I’m going to pay out of pocket to sit home then they’ve lost it. Idgaf what ****ing match Delta mgmt has going on with their pilot group, if you need us off property, offer some sort of incentive. Not 2 PS tickets to nowhere.

Endeavor is taking the grant money, no furloughs till October.

source?
filler

and there it is, its different this time.....geeesh
I swear those buildings were there just a minute ago

Check company email from DG.

False. If you’re referring to the DG email, reading comprehension is unsat. “We EXPECT Delta will accept...” and “IF Delta accepts...” is not guaranteed anything. Have we not learned anything the last several weeks regarding how fast things can change?

were you old enough to drive when those buildings were standing? Off track here...the (panic) I mean pandemic to these levels is all new.

let’s wait and see how all this all plays out


24/7 nothing but doom and gloom. The news and social media = destroying this country


also how many hundred of thousands survived? How many hundreds of thousands survived and didn’t even know they had it. It’s serious don’t get me wrong but what about a positive story from the news. Ridiculous!!!!

This. This thing is deadly, don't get me wrong. Without testing everyone, though, they have no idea what the actual rate of symptomatic infection is, never mind the fatality rate. So, they'll shut everything down instead.

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Are we allowed to post good signs, too, or only bad signs?

Delta posted its first draft schedule for May today. Who knows whether it will hold, but if it does, then it looks like we'll have almost twice as many flights as in April, and we'll get bigger in ATL, DTW, and MSP. It kinda looks like the schedule that was posted on 3/21.

I'm not saying "hey look we're back," but they aren't scheduling as if they're planning to wind us down... yet.

One thing that is missing from that schedule are CM8s...

If that schedule holds up, that’s a massive decrease in flying for OO in ATL, MSP, and DTW.

OO CRJ pretty much just has the at risk stuff left out of MSP, DTW, and SLC. Everything else is 175 for them.

As for the CM8, it only shows them on a few routes (BIS and DSM out of MSP), none for OO

I bet this schedule will change multiple times though before we get our schedules.

We only have a handful of CM8s and they may be planning to use them as spares in alignment with how they were used after delivery. That said there are also a lot of other planes available as spares at the moment.

The same tentative schedule for next month shows massive decreases in LGA, not only for us. Almost no Florida flights, which makes sense based on their travel restrictions.

I foresee many commuting issues.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that schedule will change, then, because there's no way OO parks all their dual-class CRJs aside from a few 700s from SLC. There's also no way YX has 36 daily departures.
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BIS and DSM for the CM8 are on May 2, only... after that, the CM8s are off the schedule.

I do agree that it'll probably change several times before our pairings get put together piecemeal in May again.

Hopefully they can get it done before our bid packs come out, but I have my doubts.

Bad news for YX if it is true. They are showing almost nothing but shuttle routes and flights out of their MX stations.

There already changing it again... sure it will change a few more times before May 1....

You are so right . Obviously we need to take precautions and do the best we can , but the news media are a bunch of Turds . Some News outlets are better than others , but for the media it’s all about ratings and making money first and then pushing their political agenda. Their fake empathy for dying people has always been disgusting at best. They exploit these situations to the max . It’s just mind blowing how stupid some of these media people are .

So this morning I was trying to make myself feel just a little bit better about our future. I saw a link to plane spotters that has a current list of aircraft for each airline. (operating and parked) How accurate this information is I have no idea. According to plane spotters we have 143 aircraft flying for Delta. Sky West has about 135-140 aircraft flying for Delta. This was a quick scan and count so I could be off in the total. A 50/50 split makes me feel, for now, much better. Just as a side note; there were quite a few 200's with CA tail numbers that were listed as active with no mainline partner associated with them.

I also noticed Skywest has several Delta owned PQ's still flying for them. Wishful thinking. While negotiating our pay cuts maybe ALPA can get Delta to bring all Delta owned regional jets to Endeavor. This on the face of it seems to be an easer ask than a flow through/staple. Just kidding guys we are Delta's Junior Varsity Squad. We take what Delta gives us and we like it.:D
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Endeavor-Air

We’re going to park 90 a/c.

thought it was 80? Have they increased it?

I don't know what's reasonable for your network, but they could be playing a game if the bailout says only, that they can't layoff.

They can increase cash flow if they can reduce fee for departure cost, a contractor would have to eat cost not associated with direct payroll. Share some pain.

My count is 95 and increasing.